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@MetsFan5 the feature on the CSO that helped it make fantastic toast ( not all agree the CSO makes fantastic toast ) is that the oven is sealed . toast on the CSO is dry heat but the moisture in the bread release steam while the bread toasts you get that steam when you open the door the surfaces are crispy , but the center of the toast is not dry. does your unit have a special toast button ?

@blue_dolphin I saw the Red the other day . but int bit. Ill give it a try. I usually tick w old favorites.Ill branch out nd look for the garden secrets.

@MaryIsobel I do remember making RCS I might have been 8 or so the concoction was very sticky. and hen cut into squares so good. by the time we got to the last square , days later not so much. learned a lot from the experience though.

the pro oven looks like a buffed up CSO and non steam Ive seen the second configuration in the past @ BB&B in the distant past. guessing $ 349 no meals would be the CSO clone-rice. if you lived on take out , might be an option Looked at the TJ's offerings : most would cook in a CSO with just temp and time settings some in an AF w temp and time.

@MetsFan5 thank you for your detailed report . I had not thought about the WiFi , which makes sense for the variable cooking cycle. does the oven get instructions over your phone while cooking ? or does the oven gets its instructions once , via your phone app after you scan ? its very interesting that other vendors , esp TJ's have meals that use the bar-code system and WiFi. Ill have to ask @ Tj's net time Im there ( wrote that down on my Tj list ) what most important is that its more or less also a CSO for manual use. I would be interested in seeing the cooking instruction for other meals if you have the time. I don't know what the deep sales prices are but if its also a manual CSO might be worth it for some just for that and an occasion Tj's ( or other While Im Here ) meal. thank you for sharing your experience.

@MetsFan5 thank you for that. So , if one has this oven , one can just use it as a CSO. very interesting.

I looked up Quinona in https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Rice-Cooker-Cookbook-Porridges/dp/1558326677/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1RJCKNQEVJBS3&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.x0oW9iOlbcP1D8Uv_StV1C5biRiCic8Vst6DMOSjslqwa770_Q24TuGeSyUbK1ccsFCh470NeFVlEArX5JgQ7gTTliEXIq8rNMDN98w3C7VzuoPSbt7mhAamQS7UF52bvFjEt5NAQssj9ZcX1Fz5w3nQ3y6N33ZwmvLGxEu3_t3KORb3tQKgupmp5OrsoCqaj35kp0L7dp3NaSbdjIWsKlgw6japkYEvlAo8d4P2cB0.YETe7x3bYOSpBrTaDCjNfVZQgv3Y75pzH7UYJCcn_N0&dib_tag=se&keywords=ultimate+rice+cooker&qid=1712363079&s=books&sprefix=untimate+rice+cooker%2Cstripbooks%2C67&sr=1-1 for a fuzzy cooker : brown rice cycle 1.5 cups Q 2 C water or Ck Stock 1/4 tsp salt. the Rx also says works fine in On/Off cooker .

indeed does the oven work manually ?

@MetsFan5 how did the meal taste ? would you buy this again ? in terms of the oven itself the scan feature doesn't seem to save you much effort the meal kit might say cook in the CSO for X minutes at XYZ F thank you for sharing your experience and taking us step by step through the oven's us and the Tovela meal kits. I was under the impression that the ' smart ' feature was a unique oven cycle , custom tailored for each kit . but I might be missing something, for sure.

$ 1.79 for eggs is ancient history . very ancient history. I haven't purchased eggs for about a week. high 2 dollar range ? I didnt look. Market Basket brand white large. for sure less than 3 $$

@MetsFan5 thank you for the above what do you do to get your meal on your plate? I thought you got an item delivered. it was scanned by the Instrument ( the oven ) you then placed it in the oven and pushed start. this looks like a ' meal kit " I didn't wish to imply anything one way or another by the ingredients. thank you for your continued reporting.

@MetsFan5 excellent source of at least two of the major food groups salt and sugar . its working on the third : Fat.

@weinoo more than rotuts.

Religious and Cultural ( a bit different ) food taboo's or traditions rarely stand up to experimental scrutiny . sticking to fish : Scales : OK No Scales : not OK enter the Shark Steak . fish w no scales : https://www.quora.com/Which-fish-do-not-have-scales swordfish has scales,but : and if the issue is kosher , there seem to be different ' levels ' of kosher ie https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/ask-the-expert-kosher-symbols/

@Dave the Cook excellent post . thank you. TJ's FT's are excellent in the CSO , w no flipping. if you have an AF https://forums.egullet.org/topic/143952-the-air-fryer-topic/page/37/ they get crispy , to any degree of crispiness you desire no flipping and stay moist . they stay moist in the CSO because it is a sealed oven. they stay moist in an air fryer ( 400 F ) because you get to your desired crispy level in 12 minutes +/- if you want to move your FT;s to a different dimension , ( not necessarily better , but different ) try the fish nuggets . CSO or AF you will ge a crispiness ( any level ) that is delicate and the fish , base on it more compact geometry , moister. both ae excellent. faster min the AF , w different inner characteristics.

@MetsFan5 Excellent . im also interested if the oven will work as a manual steam oven AKA a CSO.

@blue_dolphin is the ' Crunchy ' genre the shallots and garlic addition ? than they sprout out from there ?

for got to mention : bananas here ( inorganic ) 23 cents //lbs.

@Duvel another point along similar lines : pigs do not sweat . https://extension.psu.edu/keeping-pigs-cool-in-the-summer-heat thus it become difficult to raise them in hot environments there has to be water source. thus providing one for pigs makes them expensive.

@ Tj's this AM : I was looking for the Chili crunch or crunchy or ... and the only item that was close was crunchy chili corn or some such . is that Tj's version of chili oil w chili and some sort of crunch factor ( garlic ? shallots ? )

there is probably a reason for that over all but is , in n ew condition , it can be uses as a CSO clone might be worth it for the purpose at an attractive price. @MetsFan5 im curious about the salt content on the order of mg / meal , thanks

@BeeZee squirrels love tomatoes. back in my Tomato Days , I had three rows , each containing 8 plants. when ripe , squirrels would climb up the tomato's individual enclose , grab nice one ave a chomp or two discard the rest ( 99 % ) then if feeling peckish later , grab another one , rather than the initial one but I had a zillion tomatoes from my efforts , so it didn't matter. if squirrels frequent your deck , they will sample your cherries. good lick !

EoR is improved for SV w slivers of fresh garlic generously inserted here and there before bagging. but , there has to be a super duper sale , or sn empty meat counter to put this kind of effort into its prep. the only reason this cut exists ' solo ' is to dupe the poorly informed into thinking it might be tenderloin

this showed up in college , next to a toaster where you might toast ordinary american sliced bread. Seasonally . no explanation . and the food was quite decent in those days , and you could go back for seconds etc I tried it as vehicle for about 1/2 " of butter or more , evenly distributed over a piece it worked well enough for that . as @haresfur has suggessted , similar a Carr cracker . but there was no other cracker option for the butter. you could eat the butter ( those single pat thing-is ) neat of course. the box stayed there for days and days , hardly touched . this suggests it was was never removed to any dorm room for a 10 PM ' pick me up ' Q.E.D. as @weinoo has suggested : Vogue ? really ? you can document that ?

@weinoo ''' it's probably cheaper! '' confirming my suspicion I don't get out much ( by personal choice ) P.S.: its my understanding Anonymous did read the book and was impressed.