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Ramsaywatch UK

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fisherman

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However I'm not sure I agree that ONLY gas fired stoves would be hot enough to cook a steak, as Jan Moir suggests. Surely anything can make a griddle pan hot enough, even a halogen or electric hob, given enough time?

I certainly don't agree with this, I don't have gas at home. I'm using, and not through choice, Halogen hobs and they can get more than hot enough to cook a steak, I think rather than challenges, the lack of gas brings excuses!

ameiden

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I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that they hoped this was going to be the first airport restaurant to gain a michelin star? :hmmm:

One would have to add "in Britain". There is other airport restaurants with Michelin stars abroad, in Stuttgart / Germany for example.

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Last weekend I read in the Times that Ramsay wanted to focus his efforts on "fixing Pétrus". Does anybody happen to know what went wrong there? From my point of view, this used to be his second strongest restaurant in London. At times, it was very hard to get a table there, specially for weekend dinners.

nikkib

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Last weekend I read in the Times that Ramsay wanted to focus his efforts on "fixing Pétrus". Does anybody happen to know what went wrong there? From my point of view, this used to be his second strongest restaurant in London. At times, it was very hard to get a table there, specially for weekend dinners.

i tried to get a table at petrus for dinner in april and unless i wanted to eat at 1030 the earliest i could get was the 3rd week of may which suggests not much needs fixing?

"Experience is something you gain just after you needed it" ....A Wise man

olicollett

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Last weekend I read in the Times that Ramsay wanted to focus his efforts on "fixing Pétrus". Does anybody happen to know what went wrong there? From my point of view, this used to be his second strongest restaurant in London. At times, it was very hard to get a table there, specially for weekend dinners.

i tried to get a table at petrus for dinner in april and unless i wanted to eat at 1030 the earliest i could get was the 3rd week of may which suggests not much needs fixing?

I tried in January to get a table in march exactly 2 months away and i was told i could only get a 10.30 table! It was a saturday night but still.

I don't mean to go off topic but i do find it odd in London that you can get a table at some 2 *'s easily enough but other equally well regarded restaurants seem to be very difficult indeed. Is it perhaps because Petrus leave a lot of tables aside for certain people?

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nikkib

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Last weekend I read in the Times that Ramsay wanted to focus his efforts on "fixing Pétrus". Does anybody happen to know what went wrong there? From my point of view, this used to be his second strongest restaurant in London. At times, it was very hard to get a table there, specially for weekend dinners.

i tried to get a table at petrus for dinner in april and unless i wanted to eat at 1030 the earliest i could get was the 3rd week of may which suggests not much needs fixing?

I tried in January to get a table in march exactly 2 months away and i was told i could only get a 10.30 table! It was a saturday night but still.

I don't mean to go off topic but i do find it odd in London that you can get a table at some 2 *'s easily enough but other equally well regarded restaurants seem to be very difficult indeed. Is it perhaps because Petrus leave a lot of tables aside for certain people?

They only have about 14 tables or so at petrus if memory serves me right - although having said that the capital can't be much bigger?

"Experience is something you gain just after you needed it" ....A Wise man

Andy Fenn

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Ramsay's comment about wanting to fix Petrus is driven purely by his personal feud with Marcus.

He needs to fix RHR and return it to a true 3 star level before worrying about Petrus. I suspect Marcus will break free of GR Holdings before too long.

chrisp

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Ramsay's comment about wanting to fix Petrus is driven purely by his personal feud with Marcus.

He needs to fix RHR and return it to a true 3 star level before worrying about Petrus. I suspect Marcus will break free of GR Holdings before too long.

Hang on Andy - 'true 3 star level' is just when Michelin decide to give a restaurant 3 stars. And as RHR has 3 stars right now, I'm not sure there's much that Ramsay feels he needs to change.

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Andy Fenn

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I wouldn't condone the "it's a 3 star restaurant because it's a 3 star restaurant" approach. Where's the fun in that?!

I'm sure you'd agree that it's open to any restaurant goer to suggest that a 3 star restaurant doesn't deserve its 3 stars. And its virtually accepted in the industry that it's very hard to lose that third star; or rather, the demotion comes years after it was warranted.

As a Londoner, I just find it sad to see the decline in standards at RHR. I have said it elsewhere on here, but my early meals there (2002) were stunning. But two meals last year were lacklustre.

I agree though - until michelin agrees with me (and I don't think I'm the only one), there's no incentive to focus any serious attention on the flagship!

chrisp

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I agree though - until michelin agrees with me (and I don't think I'm the only one), there's no incentive to focus any serious attention on the flagship!

I suppose that's the problem with Gordon Ramsay Inc. - as long as he can still call himself a 3-Michelin starred chef (despite the fact he hasn't been in the kitchens at RHR for years, as far as anyone knows) then his opinions and - more importantly - other business ventures carry that much more weight.

I agree though, that RHR is probably due a demotion soon. Based on my last meal it's only just pushing 2* standard. The Square is better.

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olicollett

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Last weekend I read in the Times that Ramsay wanted to focus his efforts on "fixing Pétrus". Does anybody happen to know what went wrong there? From my point of view, this used to be his second strongest restaurant in London. At times, it was very hard to get a table there, specially for weekend dinners.

i tried to get a table at petrus for dinner in april and unless i wanted to eat at 1030 the earliest i could get was the 3rd week of may which suggests not much needs fixing?

I tried in January to get a table in march exactly 2 months away and i was told i could only get a 10.30 table! It was a saturday night but still.

I don't mean to go off topic but i do find it odd in London that you can get a table at some 2 *'s easily enough but other equally well regarded restaurants seem to be very difficult indeed. Is it perhaps because Petrus leave a lot of tables aside for certain people?

They only have about 14 tables or so at petrus if memory serves me right - although having said that the capital can't be much bigger?

Ah I thought it was bigger than that. I found it easy enough to get a table at the square in comparison with about 3 weeks notice for a saturday evening, I'm guessing the dining room is bigger?

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andrew_j_craig

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What is the basis for suggesting there is a feud between Ramsay and Wareing? Google hasn't helped. What was thje source for the comment that Ramsay's priority is to fix Petrus?

chrisp

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What is the basis for suggesting there is a feud between Ramsay and Wareing? Google hasn't helped. What was thje source for the comment that Ramsay's priority is to fix Petrus?

Silverbrow picked up on the bad blood, by reading between the lines in a Sunday Times article.

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Gary Marshall

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naebody

What is your investment banking relationship with GRH?

Isn't it obvious?

He's Ramsay's city brains and paid a huge retainer to broadcast his plans all over the internet. :wink:

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naebody

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naebody

What is your investment banking relationship with GRH?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ....

Who are the business brains behind Ramsay's business plan?

You mean apart from me?

Chris Hutcheson, Ramsay's father-in-law, is CEO.

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