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  1. I don't press on any stocks, shellfish stocks included, for the reasons discussed. My Américaine, for instance, is formed from a strong lobster fumet, shallots, garlic, wine, cognac, tomato, saffron, cream. I use the coral in coral butter, which is used to enrich accompanying things - risotto, or a roast-fennel timbale; and the par-roasted lobster is finish-poached in a tarragon beurre-monté; the fumet itself is not pressed and is as clear as I can make it. I am a fanatic for getting the pure extract of a given animal, going for "clean" flavors, and give up yield for this end result. For large-boned stocks, like veal, I do as HKDave says - Day one, I do a strong stock; Day 2, I do a remouillage; day 3, I marry the two and reduce.

    However it seems Chris is asking a different question - he is accepting lack of clarity, and wondering whether additional flavor will result from pressing. My short answer, with no scientific evidence but only experience to offer, concurs with FatGuy and is "no, not much, in the way of flavor." Ideally you have rendered all the flavor you can into your stock and the remaining bones and aromatics have little left. However, I will often take scraps of meat off the bones - say, chicken - and make something out of it, with the help of other things, because there is some flavor left (say, ravioli for staff meal). But I think that with pressing, the marginal flavor you achieve is not worth it and you are adding a host of impurities that carry other, unwanted flavors.

  2. Of course there's always the mix and match from the fridge and cupboards method, too.

    Take everything out, place all over the countertops, mix and match as desired, cook and devour.

    Works pretty good.

    :biggrin:

    Hahahaha. Yep - but name it afterwards, not beforehand. Then it's the "genius combination by design." :biggrin:

  3. I think about this question a lot.  Often I want to create theatre on the plate and to reproduce things that I have seen in my travels for my guests.  I’m still a failure at getting that vertical salad presentation from Alfred Portale’s Gotham City Cookbook to work.

    You may have tried it already, to no avail, but on many vertical preparations, the trick (I have heard, I'm strictly horizontal except for mashed potatoes) is to build the dish inside a length of fat PVC pipe, and then carefully remove the pipe.

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    Boy, you guys are way too intellectual for me. ....

    I haven't posted on this, as I didn't want to say much more but rather hear from others...but I realize I convey an undue nod towards "emotionality." If most of my recipes, plate conceptions, menu/degustation conceptions will often start with some sort of "visceral" response to something, I must admit a very conscious intellectuality as well...if, for instance, I include the pomegranate glaze on a plate of venison rack, in drops and gently-stroked lines, as it sensually reminds me of pristine blood, I will also think very hard, strategically, on how I can best convey whatever impulse first brought me to something. Maybe, there is a triumvirate in place - an emotional or visceral impulse, an intellectual design, and a foundation of orthodoxy. Even these, though, are artificial distinctions. Many times, I will first consciously and intellectually wish to bring about something, and use other things to bear to flesh it out. On and on.

    I understand that you as a professional have a lot less leisure to wander aimlessly through farmer's markets and a lot more pressure to turn out a variety of consistently excellent products night after night, and I respect the vision you bring to your craft.

    I cook in a way that brings me the most pleasure, from the moment I wake up hungry until the time I'm munching leftovers while doing the dishes. I'm pretty sure it's not for everyone -- it's been known to drive my wife to distraction -- but it works for me.

    I think what you do is fantastic and to the extent I am able, I never, never want to lose that...this is what drives it all, to me, after all. I simply want to share what floats my boat and get paid enough to keep doing that. If I could, I would invite every customer into the kitchen to smell the unique smell of veal stock, after everything is just fully wetted and the simmer is on...braised lamb, when the lid is first removed...the beauty of our local rainbow chard, still in water, as we pull it for service...the smell of cured duck breast, just before hanging it for a few weeks to turn it into prosciutto. Anytime anyone asked "how do you do that," I printed off the recipe, sat down with them, and talked about how they could do it at home. Babette's Feast, as much as we possibly could.

    I just realized by your post how much I had talked about "emotionality," and don't think I was being fully straight as I do use my brains as much as I use my "heart," and in truth I think the distinctions between these two poles are a bit arbitrary. Your post helped me to clarify some things for myself.

  4. I think about this question a lot.  Often I want to create theatre on the plate and to reproduce things that I have seen in my travels for my guests.  I’m still a failure at getting that vertical salad presentation from Alfred Portale’s Gotham City Cookbook to work.

    You may have tried it already, to no avail, but on many vertical preparations, the trick (I have heard, I'm strictly horizontal except for mashed potatoes) is to build the dish inside a length of fat PVC pipe, and then carefully remove the pipe.

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    Boy, you guys are way too intellectual for me. I like to have a couple of glasses of wine on an empty stomach, grab the wife and wander around the market or the grocery store and see what jumps out at me -- Maybe a fish so fresh it needs to be slapped. Maybe a piece of beef so aged that it almost needs to embalmed. The last strawberries of the year. The first Meyer lemons. Fava or english peas so fresh that you bring a positive glee to the unsavory task of elbowing old ladies out of the way so you can grab the cutest and the best. Whatever the heck "this" is (veal breast? mung beans?) that looks good and we've never made.

    And then, once the menu is begun, free associating from flavor to flavor and texture to texture as the brain and palate balance the meal without conscious thought. Something crunchy to go with the sorbet. Tart greens to go with the braised beef. A soup, because we haven't had one in too long and the bewintered body craves the miracle vitamins only warm soup provides. Something irresistable because it's on sale, we'll work that in when we get home. Fruit after a rich meal and chocolate after a lean one. Or both, because then we can have piort

    And then off for some cheese. What's particularly runny today? Maybe something to melt on toast with soup. Or that gooey-looking Italian thing in the back, with the sheep and the cow on the wrapper. Sure, we'd love a taste...

    (For more formal dinners, surround yourself with cookbooks and wine, and run through roughly the same process, using recipes instead of raw ingredients).

    I don't like thinking too hard about dinner, I like flionging myself at it. I don't trust the application of intellectual rigor to food or to art or to love. I like it when guests call out of the blue or my son announcers his friends are staying for dinner, the wine fueled anarchy that ensues when six becomes ten and I like the dishes we have to improvise because the chicken can only be stretched so far.

    There are too many rules in life already. This boy just wants to have fun.

    I haven't posted on this, as I didn't want to say much more but rather hear from others...but I realize I convey an undue nod towards "emotionality." If most of my recipes, plate conceptions, menu/degustation conceptions will often start with some sort of "visceral" response to something, I must admit a very conscious intellectuality as well...if, for instance, I include the pomegranate glaze on a plate of venison rack, in drops and gently-stroked lines, as it sensually reminds me of pristine blood, I will also think very hard, strategically, on how I can best convey whatever impulse first brought me to something. Maybe, there is a triumvirate in place - an emotional or visceral impulse, an intellectual design, and a foundation of orthodoxy. Even these, though, are artificial distinctions. Many times, I will first consciously and intellectually wish to bring about something, and use other things to bear to flesh it out. On and on.

  5. In reading, “Heat”, it appears that cooking professionally is about being devoid of emotion. It’s about reproducing a specific end point in the exact same way, 300 times an evening.  While I have the utmost respect for that effort, what drives what I put on the plate is emotion.  The urge to convey wonderment, comfort, history, whimsy, flirtation, seduction……………….

    Great post. Personally, I don't think it comes down to a zero-sum game between "emotion" and production of an end goal; I think it is finding a means to marry the two; to bring that "emotion" fully in, while being able to do it consistently, meal after meal.

    I made every effort to give over to the cooks - none of whom had done this type of cooking before - the importance of a few things: that we seek to clarify, extend, preserve essential flavor and character of the materials we used, not be wizards in unduly manipulating them; that the simple things throughout the day, simply but rigorously performed, adding up to our mise for service, were the bedrock we built ourselves on; and, to learn the principles underlying what we were trying to accomplish in the myriad things we did - why marriages, why these cuts, difference between a gently sweet carmelization from an easy simmer, v. the too-intense mouthfeel and character of a (lazy) rapid boiloff, etc. - rather than a rote replication of what I wrote and showed them. It was my deepest desire that they own their experience for themselves (the same for our front of house), by paying attention to the minutae of their senses. Once they "got" that, the craft of what we did, to the extent we had it, was built on some solid things, I would say. The desire to convey pleasure, through a deeply visceral and emotional connection to every stage of the process, the sense of "play," was built on a program of daily, orthodox discipline.

    Actually, truth be told, I am all too fully aware the limitations of my ability when compared to the greatness of the raw materials I use, and the greatness of masters that preceed me or who now live to make their mark. I am embarrassed by the notion of inserting myself in too much between food and guest. I have heard it said that Andre Soltner once voiced: "There is no new food." From my personal framework, that is wholly true. I only offer my sensibilities, the fervent desire to master fundamentals, and the deep conviction that if I don't find a way to give this over, I might as well stay home.

    Sorry for the rant. This is what we aimed for, anyway. I am reminded of Konstantin Stanislavsky (who I once played, in another iteration as an actor; I'm likely butchering it, it has been decades now): "There are great actors, and there are poor actors - but there are few truthful actors." Stanislavki was consumed with this same dilemma - waiting for the gods to strike down greatness, fine - but how to do it on a nightly basis?

    or,

    When I find a new or unusual ingredient, I tend to first think of the classic preparations and move from there. ...in the end, a lot depends on remembering your signature line, " Food should taste like what it is."

    What TJ said. :smile:

  6. Today I served the Daube of Beef in the Style of Gascony, from Cooking of Southwest France.  I don't have a picture because my guests, at what was ostensibly a ladies' luncheon, devoured it like locusts.  That, and it's very, very brown.

    I changed the method of marination so that I cooked the aromatics, in this case carrots, onions, garlic, and celery root, in a bottle and a half of Cotes du Rhone until I felt that the alcohol had burned off.  I didn't flame it, I just went by taste and smell.  After the marinade was cool I added the meat.  It marinated from Saturday to Monday, a bit less than the book recommends.

    The meats were chuck roast, bottom round, flanken ribs, and marrow bones.  The pan is lined with a sheet of pork rind, which later gets finely diced into the dish.  The meat and aromatics are browned in duck fat.  I cooked the daube for 6 hours, chilled it overnight, reheated it until hot, chilled it again, and then heated it again to serve. 

    Did I mention that this was a ladies' luncheon?  Seems like an odd menu choice, a big pile of beef, served with creamy garlic grits and slices of roasted butternut squash.  But the purring that ensued was amazing.  Noticing lots of empty bowls, I suggested that people have seconds.  The "oh no, I couldn't, I'm saving room for dessert" chorus ensued.  Then one person said she could maybe have another bite or two, and then "another bite or two" because the watchword, and that daube vanished.  The most frequent question was "why is this so good?'

    It's incredibly rich and concentrated in flavor, the deepest brown you can imagine, with the subtle notes of the wines, the quatre epices, the pork rind, the duck fat, the celery root.  The vegetables and marrow get pureed and added into the sauce, making it velvety.  If you have a few days to work on it, try this daube.  It's fabulous.

    Uh, man, sold!

    I have a duck in the fridge, waiting for a prosciutto and confit split...some of that fat, however, will have to go to daube, a la Gascogne.

  7. I'd like to hear more about the cooked wine marinade.  Recently I read (but have spaced out on the source) that marinating in wine straight from the bottle toughens the outside of the meat and defeats the purpose, and that if you want wine flavors absorbed deep into the meat you need to cook off the alcohol first.  Comments?

    Huh. There are quite a few sources (click here for a few) that debunk the notion of "cooking off the alcohol." I'm not sure that two hours of simmering the wine before marinating is a step I'd want to add....

    Interesting. I don't know that I'd want to simmer for several hours either. What I do is borrowed directly from TFL - bring it to simmer, flame it, agitate it, and keep flaming it in repeated cycles until no more flaming results. I'd be curious to see how much remains after such a process. Since wine typically contains 12%-14% a.b.v., next time I do it, I will measure before and after and check results (with some correction for the few minutes of the simmer). Thinking on it, I am certain not all goes out, as with repeated flame cycles, the solution is more dilute of alcohol. Still, curious.

    Edit: Oops! Posted before seeing Michael Ruhlman's post above. I'd like to read the LA Times article. Additonally, Michael, is it possible to provide details on Jeff's reduced RW method? Reduce with aromats, then add everything to the braise? Or strain, and braise only with the liquid (I'm guessing as much as can be extracted from the aromats takes place during the reduction - but would love to hear).

  8. Greenish-hued skin is unacceptable, and will yield the blah-taste (at best) you mention.

    The last ones I had were much more green than yellow, (and extremely knobbly) and they were the most fragrant and aromatic I ever tasted.

    That's interesting. I've not had that experience. From my use over the years, the green-skinned ones are much more muted in aroma compared to the yellow or golden-skinned quinces. Additionally, since quince is naturally extremely high in tannins, I find that ripening allows the development of the complex of sugars that offset this astringent character, and lend flavor to the finished fruit; green-skinned quinces are missing this balancing sugar content; so I don't use them. Additionally, I don't find that picked, green-skinned quinces improve with time. They maintain the character as they are bought. I'm not certain, but I'm guessing, that natural enzymatic conversion of starch to sugar ceases or considerably slows on picking, but this is just a stab in the dark. I only know that unlike other fruits (bananas, for an obvious example), I don't find a further ripening of character if I begin with greenish fruit.

    Just my experience, of course, and everyone's mileage may differ.

  9. Quinces have made sporadic appearances in the Duluth-area grocery stores just within the last few years, and I'm still trying to figure out how to find a good one.  Those that I've tried here have sometimes cooked into the beautiful rose color, sometimes just turned brown with cooking, but either way have had little flavor to go along with it.  I'd describe them as tasting like a pear, with a slight overtone of pineapple.  They weren't worth the fuss.  I think they probably weren't ripe, or perhaps they'd gone past their prime.

    I've had membrillo and know it's wonderful.  I suspect I'd feel the same way about good quince, but I need to know how to find it.  I suspect our local produce managers don't know what to look for either, and are inadvertently selecting substandard fruit.

    What should I look for, smell for, check for, the next time I have a chance to get some quince?

    It's been hit or miss for us our way as well. I look for intensely aromatic quinces - if they aren't, they will not better with time, in my experience. I also look for bright, yellow or yellow-to-gold skin. Greenish-hued skin is unacceptable, and will yield the blah-taste (at best) you mention.

  10. Had never brined before, but decided to experiment with brined pork belly from the St John cookbook. Had a complete disaster.

    Prepared a brine (400g sugar, 600g salt, 4l water, juniper, cloves, peppercorns, bay leaves), brought to boil, cooled, put belly into the pot and then left in the fridge for three days.

    Took it out, rinsed under tap for a minute or so, patted dried, scored with knife and then roasted.

    Looked great, smelt great, texture was great - but was utterly, inedibly, salty. Didn't matter so much for the crackling, but I couldn't have served the meat to my worst enemy.

    What did I do wrong? Dodgy recipe? Did I miss a step? Insufficient rinsing? Or is it supposed to be this way?

    Advice appreciated...

    That doesn't seem unduly long to me. Pork belly up to 4 days, whole loin up to 5, and I've not had a problem.

    However, your cure seems like a really, really heavy load to me...my normal cures for larger cuts and longer brining periods are (American, will convert) approximately 125 grams sugar, 85 grams salt per 4 L water; I don't think I've seen a cure more dense than 275-280 g total (salt and sugar) per 4L water, but this may just be my experience.

    For small or thin pieces of meat, I opt for a denser cure and a shorter period; for bigger pieces (such as whole loin), I opt for a longer period and more dilute cure, in order to allow even diffusion throughout the meat.

  11. We have a terrific idea for a restaurant in a nearby town. The location is perfect, the concept is proven, and we love the business. I have many years working in the business, but never got much of an education on the financial side of things. Thus, I have a bunch of questions dealing with the financial structure of a resto. Does anyone have any suggestions on where to look for info regarding the following...

    1) One contradiction I keep coming across is the one of self funding. I hear everyone saying "never start a restaurant with your own money". On the flip side, I hear people saying that nivestors and lenders want to see a personal financial stake in your business.. I personally want control, but don't mind giving up a portion of the profits. What is the right approach?

    2) In choosing between lenders and investors, which is the common way to go. Both have pros and cons. I don't mind paying interest to a lender so that I can retain and build equity, but I am also not against paying a portion of profits to investors, so long as I retain control. Is there an "optimum" split between debt and equity?

    3) With regards to a lease, how do I know that the price demanded by the landlord is considered fair? I can't just go to nearby restaurants and ask them (or can I). It seems like I would be laughed out of the place. Is this kind of information readily available?

    It's stuff like this that is weighing on me. If anyone has any suggestions (or any answers for that matter) please fill in the blanks in my brain.

    Thanks!

    adeguilio, I can only offer my personal experience, which most recently included mounting the first French bistro in our region of the United States, to great acclaim - for the first several months, only to watch my livelihood crash and burn. Please take everything I say with a grain of salt, as if anything, I learned no one rule applies. Anyway, here it is.

    1. If you can do it with other people's money, by all means, do it, with certain provisos in place. Firstly, you're right - most funders, whether equity investors or debt lenders, will not want to foot the entire bill. Most will want to see you are willing to put your butt on the line. The exception may be in something I may about to enter into - someone who knows your work, believes in your experience, tenacity, etc., and believes it will fly - a good investment, vanity or otherwise - and will float the venture. But this is very hard to come by. You are right to ask yourself - am I willing to risk this? If not, why? If not, and I am willing to divest some ownership to others - how comfortable are you listening to others, particularly when they may or may not know what is truly best for your business, though, with a high equity stake or debt-position, they may be fairly strident in their views (this happened in our case. In our case, our supposed BIDCO/incubation lender knew absolutely zero about the restaurant business, and only knew how to read a P & L statement - making strong recommendations re: cheapening costs to a formula they read - which would have killed our venture a lot earlier than it did. More on this, perhaps, another time). Bottom line, there are never absolutes, but tradeoffs. If you risk your own money, or credit, you have the right to be Imperial in your decisions. Other people's money, you have to be comfortable negotiating strategies, or being clear and compelling in dictating your own.

    2. Again, no absolutes. But be mindful that a debt note has to be paid - and if you have a stronger than predicted seasonality, or egregiously bad exogenous shocks to your local economy (yes, again, personal experience), keep in mind you owe these notes regardless. Investors, especially "friendly" investors in for the long haul, have a much longer leash and are forgiving of the inevitable valleys in your climb to solvency. However, again, you have the split-ownership areas to negotiate discussed above. If I were doing it again? Knowing how tough it is to return a profit, especially over the first several years, I'd line up friendly investors and limit my debt funding. I never, ever want to be extended as I was in this venture.

    3. Lease terms should be fairly standard in your area. Try to find a comparable - not necessarily a restaurant, but something with like square footage, like traffic, etc., - and estimate. It was our experience that we could tell when our Landlord was trying to gouge us. Also, if you have restaurants that are not in your same niche, generally, but have a rough comparability in terms of s.f., etc., I have found they are friendly to your needs - particularly if you are a customer.

    Keep in mind, too, that things like included equipment, assistance with buildout/renovation, etc., will affect the final figure. One thing you might try is a graduated lease, or, if you and you're landlord are game, a base lease with increases pegged to profits. You may or may not realize the profits, but if your Landlord is willing to risk such an "investment," during your first critical period, your lease will be lower.

  12. This is from the post I did on the French forum. By also posting here I'm hoping to get a wide variety of suggestions.

    Should this go into the daube cookoff, perhaps? You tell me.

    I've just been given a lovely frozen shoulder of chevreuil ( roe deer in English as best we can tell.)

    Not quite the same as biche or cerf I'm told by Jacques who gave it too me. He says that it will be far more tender than either of those.

    Anyway, he's aged it well before freezing it and I'm looking for advice on the best way to cook it. I'm thinking that a daube type preparation might do well, but....

    - marinate in wine first? If so, just wine or wine & ??

    - Herbs? juniper? thyme? what?

    - mirapoix base?

    - what should I serve with it?

    I've never cooked this before, in fact have hardly ever cooked any game so I'm really open to any & all suggestions.

    Thanks in advance.

    Dave, what follows may be much more than you bargained for, but here it is. Given the shoulder cut, I would opt for a braise. While I usually aim for integral sauces, among many others, I do like (not all at the same time!) the flavor of black pepper, juniper, madeira, pomegranate, red wine, and a host of acids - red wine vinegar, sherry vinegar, and verjus - with venison of various species. The poivrade suggestion came from some playing with James Peterson's classic poivrade (see Sauces), where instead of vinegar, I use verjus and pomegranate for acid and additional flavor components.

    If you don't want to go the pomegranate-poivrade route described below, you could just use the marinade, omit the verjus in the marinade, and braise normally (though a special caution to low and slow applies - venison will be leaner), perhaps with a strip of bayonne ham or prosciutto, browned and layered on top of your (marinated) mirepoix.

    You can then fine strain/chinois the jus, and have handy a portion of demi-glace, verjus or sherry vinegar (my preference, if using vinegar, unless you went with a red wine marinade - then, really good red wine vinegar), cracked black pepper and cracked juniper berries. Retain some portion of the jus to glaze the braised shoulder in the hot oven, the other portion, reduce and clarify, using demi-glace, if desired (adds, in my mind, a sweetish component in addition to that irreplaceable unctuousness - but then, I use a ton of mirepoix in my demi-glace), verjus or sherry vinegar, as desired, and a 10-15 minute simmer of the black peppercorn and juniper berries.

    If going the poivrade route, here it is. A braise, using the marinade, below; the resulting jus can then be married to the other ingredients to make a finished poivrade. I felt the gentle acidity of the verjus and pomegranate married well with the meat, and pepper and juniper, well, great with venison generally. When I use the poivrade, it is generally for a rack (with no braising), but the marinade-into-jus from the braise should be, I would think, all the better.

    Marinade:

    5 oz. carrots, 1" dice

    5 oz. onions, 1"

    3 ounces leek, white/light green portion only, 1"

    1 shallot, coarsely chopped

    1 garlic clove, coarsely chopped

    2 1/2 cups white wine - (sauvignon blanc, or one with decent acidity)

    1.5 cups Verjus

    bouquet garni (2)

    boned venison shoulder (reserve bones for below, if available)

    Kosher Salt

    Black Pepper

    Bring wine to simmer over medium high heat and flame, agitating pan and reigniting until no further flaming results. Remove pan from heat and allow to cool, with cheesecloth over pan; place rest of ingredients in pan, including venison shoulder, and marinate overnight in cooler. Remove shoulder, pat it dry, salt and (lightly) pepper it; allow to rest for 1 hour with seasoning. Sear in pan over medium heat on all sides. Add marinade (including vegetables, but discard "marinated" bouquet garni and use a fresh garni for braise). Cover tightly and braise as per your usual method until tender. I would leave braise together with its (strained) jus overnight, or for a couple days, then use reserved jus in the below sauce.

    Sauce:

    3 oz. onion, 1” dice

    3 oz. carrot, 1” dice

    3 tbsp canola or peanut oil

    1 lb venison leg trimmings, cubed 1”, neck bones, or shoulder bones (from your shoulder, if not boned) cleaved to 1", or some combination of meat and bones

    3 sprigs thyme

    ½ bay leaf

    1 small bunch parsley

    Brown meat or bones over medium high heat in oil; be careful not to blacken. Remove meat or bones, reduce heat to medium and add onions and carrots, rendering their moisture and using the moisture to deglaze and scrape pan clean. Add rest of ingredients.

    ***1st liquid deglaze/glaze***

    3 oz. Verjus

    3 oz. w/w

    5 ounce POM brand pomegranate juice (or any other really good, fresh pomegranate juice)

    Add the above liquids and deglaze pan. Allow glaze to reform over bones/meat.

    ***2nd deglaze***

    2 cups veal stock

    1 quart venison stock

    2 cups reserved jus from above braise

    10 black peppercorns, freshly (coarsely) crushed in mortar and pestle

    10 juniper berries, freshly (coarsely) crushed in mortar and pestle

    Add veal stock, venison stock and reserved jus to pan and deglaze. Reduce heat and allow to simmer, skimming religiously throughout to remove any accumulated fat and impurities, for about 3 hours or until a good, rich taste develops. Reduce heat, add peppercorns and juniper berries, and simmer very gently for 10-15 minutes. Pass through china cap, then chinois (or fine sieve) into new saucepan.

    *** Final Addition***

    ½ cup reserved jus

    ½ cup venison stock

    ½ cup pomegranate molasses (merely, POM or pure pomegranate juice reduced to a syrup over very low heat)

    Add above ingredients, and simmer over medium low or low heat until to sauce consistency, skimming continually free of any impurities and passing, if necessary, through chinois.

    Just before serving, finish by whisking in 4 tbsp. beurre monté. I'd recommend moistening braised shoulder with sauce, rather than pooling sauce and plating meat on top.

    I'd a huge fan of venison with (wine and vinegar-braised) red cabbage, mushrooms, spaetzle, gnocchi (Parisienne), squash - done any number of ways. I once did a trio of timbales, but love the brilliant color of braised red cabbage set against the orange of, say, delicata or butternut. Of course, I will eat a nice sage gnocchi with anything.

    Hope you enjoy, if you go this way!

  13. That book has been in my Amazon.com wishlist forever. I really need to order it next payday. Thanks Paul. I have done papillote for salmon but never thought to use the technique for cod. Is that one you meant?

    What's salt-grilling? I've never heard of that.

    Actually, for the cod, I wasn't thinking papillote, but that would be great too. I was thinking of one-pot cooking: a shallow poach, stew or brothy-main course given its texture. Also, tempura batter or dredged in rice flour, deep fried: crunchy, moistened with a good, sweetish broth, served in a bowl with accompanying vegetables poached in the same broth, or my favorite, goma-ae.

    Chef Tsuji describes salt-grilling - shio-yaki - as a method of marinating; it involves pre-salting fish by any one of a set of salting techniques, allowing to rest, then grilling, by any one of a skewer-and-grill techniques. My emphasis (italics) comes from why I love Japanese ways generally, and Japanese cuisine specifically. The simplest thing - salting - codified into a way, suited to a purpose, sublimated to excellence by honoring the raw material. One example may serve.

    For a sea bass salt-grill (Suzuki shio-yaki), he recommends fairly prodigious salting using the furi-jo technique: sprinkle salt onto a cutting board from one's hand, positioned about 14" above cutting board. Place filet, skin side down, and allow salt to "sift through your fingers onto the fish," presumably from the same height (which, I'm guessing, gives precisely the best salt density-dispersal(!)). Allow 40-60 minutes for salt to penetrate.

    For salt-grilling, Chef Tsuji indicates three things are key: skin should be crisp; fish just to done and no more; and served and eaten hot. For the sea bass, he describes using a "flat-skewer" (hira-gushi) technique, which is a way to thread several pieces of fish filet on a set of skewers - inserted cross-grain through the meat, in the middle of the flesh; thereby, preventing flaky-grain fishes from falling through into the fire. Chef Tsuji then goes on to describe the method - over a really hot fire, skin side first, to about 60% done (about 5 minutes), until "the flesh on the upper side of the filet will begin to bead with pinkish sweat; skin facing the fire will be crisp golden brown." Turn and continue grilling until done, about 2 minutes. The chef also includes extensive information on what sides would best go with what fishes, given levels of fat and oil, acids in sides, etc.

    Really a great read. I hope you are able to grab the book soon.

  14. Well, outside of the obvious - nigiri, etc., others you perhaps have already thought of, immediately coming to mind, include grilled teriyaki for the salmon (as I could live on teriyaki); one-pot for the cod, given its texture, and the host of techniques ("salt-grilling," steamed, and foil-wrapped - akin to papillote) discussed by Shizuo Tsuji in Japanese Cooking: A Simple Art. Do you have the book? Highly recommended - watashi wa Aikido no seito desu - Shihan no uchideshi desu - and while uchideshi, as a French cook, I was usually requested to make dojo meals. I am grateful I learned something of the Japanese culinary way there, and Japanese Cooking was very helpful.

    Good luck!

  15. just about anywhere you'd use apples, you can use quince.  they do, however, need to be cooked/poached/roasted to make them edible.

    i would think they'd pair very nicely with pork

    cooked with red cabbage

    you can make a homemade membrillo (quince paste) to eat with cheese

    Agreed. In my mind, there is nothing quite like the aroma of quince - intensely floral, pear and apple. When I smell it, I am in my favorite time of year, the fall.

    Just a few of the many things I love to do with quinces:

    I love to poach them in a sugar poach (with a scraped vanilla bean). I often then caramelize them with a touch of brown sugar and butter, (easy) flame with Calvados, and serve with pork (braised shanks with red cabbage and quinces, or pan-roast, double-chop, with parsnip puree and quinces).

    I also served a fall charcuterie with, among other things, moulard or muscovy duck prosciutto, brioche and quince jelly; also, seared foie gras with same accompaniment.

    Or a quince tarte tatin.

  16. For me its taste that grabs me first. That perfect first bite of the quintessional apple. A sip of 100 year old vintage port. A wonderful steak. And on and on and on.

    When I first learned to cook my goal was to duplicate the taste of my Mother's food. Not that she was such a great cook, but her cooking was what I knew & liked. As I got into my teens I started trying to emulate the tastes from my friend's Mother's cooking; in my case this was primarily Southern Italian & Mandarin Chinese. I can still remember clearly the taste of a soft polenta with bolognase sauce & parmisian dish that my friend Roger's Mom made. I've never quite been able to duplicate it.

    Later I was fortunate enough to travel Europe & many other parts of the world for many years on an expense account. Although I rarely went beserk I did eat well and as my friends in the various countries learned that I loved good food & cooking I was introduced to restaurants well off the tourist track. My then newly married wife, Linda, was shocked when I came home & announced that we were changing our vacation plans so we could go to dinner at Girondet in Switzerland. My favorite ever restaurant. So it was a drive across France & over the Jura to Lausanne instead of the ferry to Spain & the wine country. After the dinner she agreed that it was the right choice.

    I would come home & try my darndest to replicate the taste of something I'd eaten during my travels. I slowly got to where I could come close. I still have fun trying.

    As I got older & more experienced as a cook I started to have more & more of my own ideas of what food combinations might work. (anaheim chilies sliced lengthways, deseeded, grilled, flipped & filled with ripe brie then grilled until the brie melts was an early simple idea.) These days I fool around a lot & try things. Linda is my taster & severist critic, think she only puts up with me because of the very occasional success.

    I love doing it & in the main our friends seem to enjoy eating it.

    So, for me its all about taste. I admire beautiful looking food, but can't really do it. I admire the adventurous cooks, but get upset with novelty for its own sake. The tastes have to work. The ingredient too far syndrome is far to common.

    To paraphrase the old cliche: "where's the taste?"

    Thanks to Paul for starting this thread so eloquently and providing me a platform for this rant. Peace to all.

    You know, people asked me where I learned...and I always told them my mother's kitchen. She wasn't a distinctly French cook. But we grew up with, among other things, a kind of artichokes barigoule, lamb stews with wine, and so forth. Though much of what she grew up was out of Betty Crocker, our line's French blood found its way through generations of mothers, I came to fully realize on mounting my own venture. It occurred to me how much our food is our past, however latent.

    Wonderful post, Dave, as usual, thanks. I think you are asking the question that moves beyond "what drives us" to "what is the purpose of dining," a question I have asked myself over and over again in refining what I want to accomplish.

  17. p.s. Paul, did you ever see the Adams Family movies? Not sure which one, but its the one where Grandma admonishes Wendy, "Now, play with your food." and the bowl of food is all wiggling worms and eyeballs?

    Hahah - Yep, I sure did. May we never lose this. Funny - there was thought behind the name of my bistro, Waterstone; stone, which held a sense of seriousness of purpose, I think, yet water - light, fanciful, dancing, and not taking ourselves too seriously. I error too far on the former side, and I will try to keep Grandma's dictum always close by. That was priceless. :biggrin:

  18. This is off topic but  this  weekend special at my bistro is cervena tenderloin,butternut squash puree, braised cabbage and black currant jus. We are also 28 seats and located in Windsor.  Bizarro world indeed.

    Ha! Wow, that's great. It is always interesting when stuff like this happens - I forget what it was, but something about Chefs Bocuse and Guerard, I think, coming up with something at the same time, with absolutely no cross pollination -not a movement (i.e., nouvelle or minceur) but literally, a plate, and it was only discovered after the fact that both had come up with something at the same time, utterly independently. After my agonization over relevé, I am not even attempting to remember what it was...but I think this is fascinating when it happens.

  19. Karen and Judith, thank you for your wonderful, thoughtfully generous posts. I am really intrigued by both your approaches (and would really love to eat your food!). I love the sense of play embedded in a solid culinary sense. I am not all that playful a cook, striving all these years for the mastery of a certain orthodoxy, so both of you have provided a wonderful vista. Thanks.

    Oh, Judith, by the way -

    is this what you were askin??

    You bet! I really have no preconceived idea - I am just fascinated how cooks come to what they do, and you put forward a beautiful example. Those artichokes look really good....For a winemaker dinner last year, one of the courses was a pan-roast halibut with artichoke vinaigrette, and a couple of anchovy fritters...your artichokes would have been a wonderful component.

  20. Hi everyone -

    Inspired by some nice conversations on a France thread, I have been thinking a bit on what first grabs me when I cook, in terms of what I wish to convey to my guests by a given plate, or menu; and I am curious how others go about their process. I'll start.

    Whenever I begin thinking of a plate, it is an emotional start, with broad strokes, visceral connections, senses lit up that I seek to pass on, and little else - it may be a play of colors in my mind, or the seasonal, sense connection to a certain aroma, but this is where it starts. I use these broad strokes to continually go inwards, down to the execution of recipes and techniques - but it all starts with an emotional "theme," and a desire to infectiously pass on the first emotive impulse surrounding the memories, aromas, images, etc., that come to mind.

    One example may serve. At my former bistro, located in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, hunting life is very much a part of the autumn our way. While I love venison, the deer up here have a tough time - surviving on scrub pine, and little else, during the long, cold months; their life is harsh, and their taste is equally rough, tasting of resin and little else. I sought to provide some experience of the fall, while elevating what venison could be in people's minds.

    So - seared Cervena rack, delicata squash "barquettes," braised red cabbage; dressed with venison sauce, and lighting the plate, a duo of glazes - a pomegranate syrup (nothing more than reduced, clarified fresh juice); and a syrup made from juniper-infused late harvest riesling, highly reduced and clarified. The pomegranate - sheening, bright crimson - reminded of blood, of the hunt, of where this animal came from; and the riesling was golden-hued, reminding of fall leaves and the holiday season. Because of its play of color, I personally called it my "party plate," but I think it would have been more aptly called "a desire to pass on a walk through the fall woods."

    I'd like to invite anyone reading this - what drives your cooking? How do you compose a plate, or a menu?

  21. I can only echo Lucy's comments. Your food looked faboulus.

    I was particularly struck by the braised lamb shanks having just posted a recipe for them in the cooking forum. Yours put mine to shame. I'll definitly steal some of your technique if I may.

    After you've visited Lyon you might want to head West. we've plenty of space.

    Well, good morning Dave, and thank you for your kindness! However, I just read your recipe and it looks fantastic. I am certain your shanks are equal to mine...I wish I could claim something special; but as with all my food, I claim nothing but a keen desire to master simplicity.

    The shanks themselves are salted and peppered for several hours, seared well, set on a bed of very lightly caramelized mirepoix, and moistened with chicken stock, and a far lesser portion of lamb stock (too much, and I find the final jus well, too much, given the remouillage below). Good amounts of romas nestled amongst the shanks, thyme. 275F for several hours, then pulled and laid out; jus clarified, then split into two - one part, used as a remouillage for lamb neck bones, more romas, more thyme, some garlic, to a resulting sauce; the other portion, at service, used to glaze the shank in a hot oven.

    Between you, Lucy, Felice, and others, I am very warmed by your reception and grateful for your graciousness. Your work on this and your related sites is nothing short of inspirational. Thank you. I would love to pay a visit.

  22. That is a beautiful meal. 

    Paul, you have got to come over here.  You can stay with us.

    Lucy, thank you so very much. Your beautiful pictures and foodblog Lyonnaise of a few years ago sustained me even while mounting Waterstone, and I would love to visit when we get there. I am very appreciative, and will keep you posted.

    Best,

    Paul

  23. While wandering through the eG wine forums I found this thread that discusses Burgundy

    Need advice on French Burgundy

    Fantastic, thank you, Felice.

    I'm afraid I am wandering through the prickly fields of melancholic nostalgia. Some things from my former French bistro (as French as I know it, from a seed planted 35 years ago - M. Pepin, merci):

    A starter, a finisher: Onion tart, petit mache salad; chocolate rum torte, caramel sauce:

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    Seared Ahi, with roast garlic jus, shoestring potatoes:

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    Lamb shank - as I served it in the restaurant, braised, with confits of garlic and tomato, thyme oil, an integral sauce made from lamb, and great northern bean-gratin:

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    A trio of quails: stuffed, with dried fall fruits, armagnac-quail jus, braised kale:

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    Finally, an interior of our place:

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    And part of the team of professionals we valued highest of all:

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    -Paul

  24. Undoubtedly, not in common usage
    and, to be quite picky (you think you are the only picky person here?? :wink: ), even with your Google results, it was still something which had to be scrounged up to get the meaning ... most of the Google results even under food were not about food ... :hmmm:

    It is a highly esoteric term known best only to those who are in circles which interact ... such as in a Venn diagram ... my circle here (educators) ... so there ...

    Picky, persnickity Paul ... :laugh:

    Well, I don't know if I was picky, as much as going insane - as I used it all the time, as did the many restaurants I worked in L.A. and Chicago. There, the word was quite common, in practice. :smile:

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