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Suvir Saran

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  1. Thanks Ed! How often do you see yourself using Cilantro in your Chinese cooking? What kind of dishes do you add it to?
  2. That is the best way to do it. In fact I am always adding new stuff to the pantry. And I often will buy small quantities, just in case I never use some things.
  3. Turmeric, haldi Cumin seeds, zeera (powder as well if you do not have a spice grinder) Coriander seeds, dhaniya (ditto) Black Mustard seeds, rai Nigella seeds, kalonji panch phoron (Bengali five spice mix) fenugreek seeds, methi daana Kasoori Methi (dried fenugreek leaves) amchoor (mango powder) cloves, laung cardamom, elaichi carom seeds, ajowain Khus Khus, Indian white poppy seeds Til (indian white sesame seeds) sabut laal mirchi (whole dried red chiles) Poha (dried beaten rice, thick) Bhel Puri Mix Coconut Flakes (unsweetened) Curry leaves Garam masala bay leaves fennel seeds, saunf sonth, ginger powder heeng (asafetida) Kashmiri laal mirchi (red chili powder) Chaat Masala saffron Tamco (tamarind paste) Ginger Paste (for very lazy chefs) Garlic Paste (for very lazy chef, or if you cannot find ginger root easily) Chana Daal (split peas) Urad Daal (split beans) Besan (chickpea flour) Atta (chapati flour) Sooji (semolina) Basmati chaawal (basmati rice) sambhaar powder (if you want to ever make South Indian stews, or even tomato chutney. 777 Brand is great.
  4. You are the smartest.. thanks for thinking of this thread. Perfect thread. Do we have a deadline before which to get you the list of items? Are you asking with a deadline in mind? Or do we get a day or two to think of what really are the bare essentials.
  5. Do you get nice and ripe tomatoes all year long? Or is there a season when they are better? How is the chutney being accepted by your friends? Is it too hot? I make mine much hotter than what I share in the recipe, in fact the hotter you make it, the nicer the contrast I think between the acid, sugar and heat. But at this level, it gives great pleasure without hurting too much.
  6. I like the chiles to be almost burnt but not really. It gives the chutney a great flavor, "charred and smoky" as Eric Asimov said in his review of Diwan where he ate this chutney with crab meat stuffed beggars purses. I am not sure how strong the flavor can be if the chiles are burnt.. but a little burnt flavor works very well.
  7. How long did you simmer? Have a digital camera? Maybe you can take a pic... I love it with eggs... And in fact, if you want to try it again, you can add some cream into the chutney before adding the eggs... very tasty creamy sauce it makes... I fry the eggs just a little to give them a slightly crunchy skin. Or you can add some water, thicken the sauce just a little, add som milk, bring to a boil, break eggs into the sauce, cover and cook for 5-7 minutes. That is a great way of making curried eggs with tomato chutney. I often broil brie with a rub of tomato chutney and then have it with crackers.
  8. What a great pointer from Liza. Sounds like a perfect tip for Dstone. How many pounds of tomatoes did you use Dstone? About 8 pounds. They weren't as ripe as I'd have liked. A little too firm. But it tastes great. And I've eaten too much already. You made a full recipe. WOW! Did you add some canned tomato paste? How much do you have left? Did you freeze any as per Liza/CathyL instructions? What have you eaten the chutney with?
  9. A regular skillet is better because the full contact crisps the crust, and the trick is to get the pan moderately hot on the stovetop first, then place the slice in, then pop the whole package in the oven under the broiler to finish. Did I teach you this trick? How do you know it? I thought only I knew it. My grandma in SF taught me this. They order Pizza once a month.. and can never finish it all. This is how she heats it up the next day for lunch.
  10. What is Indian food? In general terms, Indian food could simply be understood as the food eaten by the people living in India. These could also be those foods that are identified to the people of Indian origin living outside of India. What makes a food item Indian? Any item could be Indian for just as many reasons as dishes served in American homes and restaurants under the name “American” are considered American. What makes something “American”? If you can answer, that, you can use a similar answer to understand what could make something Indian. Also, it is interesting to note that India is one of the worlds most diverse regions. It has an amazing array of languages, cultures, religions, tribes, artifacts, cuisines and peoples. Within the confines of one geographic area, you find more diversity than in many continents. There are more languages and dialects found in India that one could find in larger continents. There are more people living in all of India than many continents grouped together. There are more religions finding a happy home in Indian soil than in many countries and continents. There are foods eaten in Indian homes that could easily find roots to many different cuisines and countries, such is the rich history of India. Thus, it is even more difficult to really understand what could be classified as Indian food. Cutlets (patties made with meats or vegetables or both) that were first introduced to India by the British have become a dish cooked across India and hardly any Indian would consider it anything but Indian. But, if you were to trace the roots back many centuries, you will certainly not consider it Indian. But those roots have to be traced back to a time older than the existence of many nations. Most of the dishes that would classify as “new foods” are older than the US. And then you have other “new foods” that trace back to the invasion of India by dynasties from the Middle East. These invasions began a thousand years ago. And so, in India, you have a fusion cuisine that is more than thousand years old. And then there are those foods and dishes that are as old as India. Some of them are mentioned in the many books that form the pool of texts one would study when studying Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism and some other religions that come from India. Foods eaten by people living in India or calling themselves as people of Indian origin could be considered as foods of the Indian people. Just as would be the case with most any countries people, these foods are Indian for either they came with these people to their new places of residence, or have become Indian after a long time of acceptance and entry into the kitchens of these Indian people. It is just as easy or difficult to define Indian food, as it is to define American cuisine. I remember speaking with food writers and critics no more than 5 years ago, and no one could understand what American food was. They wondered if it should be called American French or American Italian or American German or American English or American Latin. But today, we have accepted the place of a cuisine in our midst that many call American cuisine. And it is one that has taken from many and given these cuisines an identity that is at once connected to the many cuisines of the world and yet with enough of its own uniqueness that it could hardly be confused as one of the older cuisines that it has some roots in common with. Indian cuisine could easily be considered one of the most organic cuisines the world has known. It has had a life that has been enriched by a past as ancient as time and as young as the ambitions of its people. It is this diversity and richness that make Indian cuisine both a treasure unlike any other and also an anthropological enigma for a research scholar. What makes Indian cuisine organic? Indian cuisine has grown with every invasion of India by a foreign entity. While some cultures and cuisines and peoples have lost a critical sense of self after being invaded, India has found new vigor and vitality even after the blood soaked carnage that accompanies such dominance. It is this thirst for life and a desire to forgive, forget and move forward that has been both the bane and true gift of the Indian people. It is a gift for even after suffering great tragedy and losses, this is a land of people that found ways of seeing hope even as they found themselves deep in the darkness of ash and dust. It is a bane as people with such large hearts and forgiving selves, have been just as generous with politicians and governmental types as they have taken advantage of these peoples lot in life to further their own personal agendas. It is a very difficult aspect for a student of history and people to understand. One sees the double-edged sword that is India. As the worlds most vibrant and diverse democracy, India has achieved what countries much smaller and far less populated could not achieve. But this diversity, this great mass of people and this forgiving nature has also left India be somewhat behind as a nation in the divide between the haves and have-nots. India is a thriving nation, it has seen growth that is awe inspiring, but if you compare it with China, you realize how being a democracy does not always lend to growth and economic stimulus. India sees itself no more than a decade behind China in growth, but many argue that it is not worth it to aspire for growth in the same ratio if that means losing freedom and cultural richness that India arguably has endlessly more of than most nations. All of these freedoms have also been a great stimulant in enriching the culinary traditions of India. India as we know today, sits on a land that was home to the great civilizations of Harappa and Mohenjodaro. Great civilizations, they have found no interest in the West, as their language has been very difficult to understand by archaeologists and historians. What has further underplayed their importance is the teeming masses of millions that live over these lands in modern cities. It would be a nightmare to excavate correctly and completely. But not being able to decipher the language of these people has been the worst thing for these ancient civilizations. It has reduced the appeal for their study to people from the West, who find nothing marketable in selling replicas of ancient artifacts that cannot be explained. Great tiles, earthenware pots and cooking utensils and vessels have been excavated. A great amount of architectural genius of these people has been unearthed and city planning of these people has been documented as being far advanced than that of any other ancient civilization. But again, none of this has made great media in the West, for it has remained a silent art. A language that used symbols and natural elements in a unique juxtaposition has shown great depth and richness, has stood the test of time and history, but unfortunately has remained a puzzle to understand. That has kept this civilization from finding a welcome traveling art exhibition around the world. And with that, it has found little if any interest from the heritage foundations of the world for its preservation. What remains at museums and galleries, which has not been plundered by foreign invaders and locals, gives great insight into a world that thrived with great respect for natural resources. Grains, legumes, animals, plants and vegetables all find places in their seals and artifacts. From what can be understood by studying these remains, is an India that was a very well planned civilization of people that had a well planned civic structure, a public granary, a city plan that would easily make it the most forward city of its time, a drainage system that illuminates the need for hygiene by its people and a very rich trading community. Grains and legumes and vegetables and spices were given great importance for they are found in drawings in seals. Spices are found in seals and one wonders if their importance and economic strength was well known even in those times. By seeing animals in these seals, one can understand the domestication of certain animals and use of some as food. It shows that ancient India was not vegetarian as became a later more widespread trend. This tells us that the Indian people were not always vegetarian. Some suggest that Indians of Hindu faith became vegetarian only after the end of the Vedic times. The Vedas the most venerated texts of Hinduism were very secular and gave great importance to life being a very organic part of the larger universe that it shares with other elements. It was only with the coming of the Puranic era that Hinduism got strictly codified. This is believed to have been a downfall in the secular traditions of this great region. Hinduism as also the several other religions that found their birth in this region, are mostly all very peace loving and free religions. The Puranic times are believed to have introduced vegetarianism as a way of abstinence. The priests came into power and to show their control, this is understood to have been on way of gaining great leverage in the lives of the masses. It is fabled that human sacrifice and cow sacrifice were the highest forms of sacrifice to Indians of that era. After these sacrifices, one ate from what was offered to the Gods. So, cows were eaten for these great occasions, but were banned for consumption at other times. This is a great example in understanding how a culture that enjoyed meats became largely vegetarian. Hindus believe that one can only achieve ultimate freedom from the vicious circle of life and death by reaching Nirvana. To that end, we meditate, pray and make offerings to the gods, amongst which an offering of sweets is very highly regarded. One such offering is a sweet milkshake-like concoction called Panchamrit. This heavenly drink is made up of the five sacred ingredients: Shahad (honey), Doodh (milk), Ghee (clarified butter), Cheenee (sugar) and Gangajal (water from the holy river Ganga). Many Indian desserts therefore, are intentionally made with some or all of these ingredients Fire was worshipped as a God. It was thus also considered a way of purifying all ingredients. The Sun being a God was also considered a way of purifying all ingredients. Thus many foods would be considered cooked only by putting them in the scorching rays of the Sun. Milk, considered a gift from a Cow (also considered a Godly creature) was considered holy as well and so foods that came in contact with milk, were also considered purified and ready for consumption. With the coming of the invaders from the Middle East, Islam came to India. With it came new types of foods. India saw itself in a new quandary. It had to now find a fine balance between being accepting of these new people and also accepting their own culinary habits. While the advent of Islam led crazed following of Hindu beliefs by some, it also saw the fusion of these two very different cuisines by many. There were Hindus that quickly adopted meat back into their diet (avoiding beef, that was by now taboo for the Hindus) and then there were Moslems that had found new meaning in vegetables. This led to enlightenment in the cuisine of India. If this were not enough to enrich India’s own culinary heritage, it continued to attract people from lands afar. Dutch, English, Portuguese, French and others all have left their own influence in the foods of India. India has also been a welcome home to many refugees from around the world. All these people have brought their own unique cultures and cuisines into India and found a new utterance in these after fitting them into the Indian mold. I remember even as a child, I would see new foods get accepted into the kitchen of my grandmothers home (where my family and I lived, and Panditji, my favorite chef and human being also lived). Every time my cousins would visit from the US and different parts of the world, they brought with them recipes they were familiar with, and these very quickly found a way into Panditjis (a Brahman chef, who cooked vegetarian foods, as would have been ritually prepared for the most pious and chaste Hindus) repertoire. Cheese toasts, pizzas, macaroni and cheese, cakes, muffins, scones, sandwiches, omelets, French toasts, doughnuts, cookies, etc, all found a home in his kitchen, and soon got a truly Indian flavor and identity. In fact our families recipe for cheese toast and pizza has inspired in awe many a visiting foreigner in India. Small differences like adding chile into the tomato sauce, roasting chile in the olive oil can make all the difference. It adds a greater depth of flavor that Indians love. I also remember Abha Aunty (no relative, just a friend of the family), serving baked beans on toast for her annual New Years Eve party. It was my favorite dish as a child, and I can never enjoy baked beans ever again, for I crave her preparation of it. No Canadian recipe has moved me in the same way. Baked beans on toast, as prepared by Abha Aunty, are a part of Indian cooking for me. What is Indian cooking after all?
  11. Boaziko, I edited your post, just the image part, to correct the link. It was not opening before. Hope that is OK with you. Thanks for the pic. Are these the jars you canned? Are you gifting them? How many did you yield? Thanks for sharing the photograph. How sweet you are to give me credit on the label. Thanks.
  12. What do you think are the basics a novice must have before starting Chinese cooking? What are your favorite stores in NYC where one can find these ingredients? Are there mail order places one can buy from? And any other tips for someone like me that has never cooked Chinese food would be much appreciated.
  13. What a great pointer from Liza. Sounds like a perfect tip for Dstone. How many pounds of tomatoes did you use Dstone?
  14. Steve you write so very well. And you raise amazing points. Thanks! Did you taste the dessert made by Colleen Apte at the Javits Center earlier this year? It was made with canned corn and was called Cornucopia (sp?). It was delicious. And it really did a great job in sharing the importance of having a perfect balance between ingredients and technique. It was a perfect example of what you say. And a glorious one at that.
  15. A friend was making stuffed ravioli with Alice Waters recipe. A disaster for a recipe. The friend said he was lucky he waited till I came to start stuffing the pasta. He had made the pasta using an Alain Ducasse recipe and it was superb. Alice Waters either did not know the technique, or hardly cared if the reader did... The recipe pointed you to a page 100 pages forward where in another recipe the technique about how to make raviolis was discussed. I was shocked that one like her would allow for such a mistake. Also, I would think the first recipe of a ravioli should have the complete directions, and any recipes for the same dish later could reference to it. But someone in Alice Waters team really did not care. It saddened me. I hope my cookbook does not have such glaring mistakes. We tried very hard to keep the sequence correct. Now I have to hope it does not get changed during editing. I have never understood the fuss about CP. But I was not here in its prime time.
  16. Spoken like a true chef, cook and human being. Thanks Jaymes for taking time to share how you really feel. You are brilliant in your words above. Your humanity and your connection to what is real is transparent and infectious. I am amazed. If words could bring tears to ones eyes, yours did. Really, thanks. I wish more people could have your way with words, understand life as plainly and beautifully as you do, and then share it in words. Thanks. I always say cooking, tasting and testing has nothing to do with the heart. They are of and from the heart and connected to it only when we are removed from fluff and hype. Otherwise, they are no less mediocre than anything else. Real cooking and cooking done with love, has everything to do with the heart and soul. Food is one of the few pleasures of life that has great power to change and affect. Food also has shown us how easily it can divide. It is a shame to let something as glorious and humble as food divide us when it could easily do the opposite. What a shame we allow it to lose its innocence because of our own insecurities. You have shared the best qualities of food in your post. Thanks! No wonder you are not only a great cook and chef, but also a writer and a celebrated daughter (and of course an inspiring and much loved mother). Keep sharing your earthly and inspiring wisdom, and we shall have plenty of room for both canned and dry beans in our pantries. And something for both our tables and our hearts.
  17. Call Surroundings in NYC and ask them to deliver the gift baskets. They can deliver across the nation. They have great affiliates around the nation. I have ordered from Peanuts as well.
  18. I shall send you some recipes via email. Hope the Dane enjoys them as much as he did the chicken.
  19. That was a very thoughtful post. You are very kind to make this a personal issue. Not what I want...It would be certainly great for Indian cooking.... But do not feel compelled by me. But you say a lot of poignant things... Food has become a lot about trends. All over the world. And yet, once some cuisine finds an appropriat introduction, I think it does seem to find a sense of place in that new environ. It is a matter of time and also a matter of how the cuisine is introduced.
  20. Correct... that is what makes me wonder... why such slow acceptance.
  21. Anil, correct me if I understood you wrong, you are agreeing with the great post Human Bean has posted, but you are adding to the comparison, right? Yes we do have many diverse religions in India as well. And for the most part, they have remained in harmony. The numbers (populations) of even these minorities is HUGE. And so, yes in the context of India, one could not ignore the importance that religion has played in the lay of the land. Thanks Anil, for pointing this out. Human Bean, that is a great post, it certainly deserves many and very thoughtful answers. I will try my best to be here for all that take part in what promises to be a great debate on what really Indian food is. PS: While Anil correctly added religion into the realm of this discussion, I must also add the foreign invasions and their uniqueness as well. Those played a very important role as well.
  22. Thanks to both of you. What a treat to have such generous members. Boaziko, What are some of your favorite dishes from the Indian restaurants you have tried? Is Indian food really all that much spicier than some of the Middle Eastern foods?
  23. Is Mrs. Pushkarna from the Indian Jewish community? Her being from Delhi makes me doubt that, but I felt it is a good question to ask. Would you mind telling me more about her from the Hebrew article? What sort of an article is it? What is your favorite Indian dish? Why so? What is your favorite Indian restaurant in Israel? How often do you visit it? Has anything changed about it since you first went to it? Again, thanks for taking the time to answer my tedious questions. You are very generous for taking the time. I hope our other members from Israel, and those that travel there and may know some of these answers will also share their own information. And to all of you, I say thanks in advance.
  24. The time here is week-end morning. There are some Indian restaurants in Israel. Most are under the wings of Mrs. Pushkarna. She has some restaurants all over the country (Tel-Aviv, Herzelia, Jerusalem, Eilat). The food there is OK. I would not compare it to good restaurants in Indian-populated cities (like London and others). You may find there classic Indian dishes. Who is Mrs. Pushkarna? What is her claim to fame? Thanks for being so prompt with a post.. even on a weekend morning. Much appreciated. Have you eaten Indian food in these other cities you mention (like London)? What is the difference you think between the food there and in Israel? What are some of the dishes you find most commonly on these restaurant menus? Are there menus or other information on any of these restaurants available on the internet? How do these restaurants, if at all, try and define themselves in any particular way for the Israeli community? Is that necessary? Is that something a restaurant should take into account?
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