Darienne

I 'knew' that listeria could take 30 days to manifest...but this article says up to 70 days. It would be pretty difficult to chase back one's eating more than two months to find the source. OTOH, a friend's brother died from mad cow disease some years ago and they were told that the illness could simply live in the body for decades before it showed up. The brother had lived for some years in Brazil and Argentina many years ago and eaten much beef and the medical staff said that would have been the cause. It was a terrible story.

I hope that your 'local farmers' are more honest than some in my area. The city has just been through a horrendous brouhaha over that very thing....farmers misrepresenting the source of their wares.

I would say 'freeze'...but then we freeze just about everything. Ed eats a lot of peanuts and the cellar freezer has a big bag of peanuts in it.

This is not encouraging for American consumers. On the other hand, it's not surprising either. From my current Consumer Reports e-download. https://www.consumerreports.org/food-labels/seals-and-claims?EXTKEY=EE993PMAC&utm_source=acxiom&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20190926_cromc_engagewkly I'd like to know what the current labeling standards are in Canada. Next research project. After dealing with the bumper crop of apples...

No, but I am interested. Been making magic shell for years, but the a 3:2 chocolate to oil mixture. Even grownups love to watch the liquid suddenly harden. Also...have no cognac in the house.

I dried them in a dehydrator this time, but I've also done them in the oven. They are reconstituted by being basically thrown into whatever I am making that calls for chopped onions. With some small consideration given for liquid measurements. In so many recipes it would make no never mind.

Looks lovely. I'm so tired tonight I can't recall if I already posted about our ten pounds of onions which were sliced and dehydrated for winter cooking use. I still can't slice very well, and so I just dip into my dried source.

Processing the apples. Not wall-to-wall fun. Mostly because there are so many, even after giving some away, and it seems as if it will never end. Apple juice (kinda ciderish straight from the apple), apple sauce, apple slices dehydrated, apple leather, with and with sliced almonds, apple cake (freezer). One strange thing...the apples seem to have no fruit flies either in the garage awaiting processing nor in the cellar where Ed is doing his part...including leaving peels, cores, spent pulp from juice making, etc. Any ideas? I've long thought that the fruit flies come with the fruit from the grocery. Could this be true and that's why even the 'leftovers' don't have flies. OTOH, while picking falls this morning, I got stung, again. Never saw the varmint, but the melody lingers on....

Well, BD, you sure belong now!

I do recall an male eGer in NS, near Halifax, but it does go back a while...

Awww shucks... Had to add more 'w'.

Told you so. And yes I did. But not nearly as badly this time. Will I never learn? Probably not.

Today, over morning coffee in bed, I asked Ed...have I ever spoken about 'epiphanies' occurring in eG in the last years? Neither of us could really recall "ONE" outstanding event of recipe which overrode my basic reaction to my joining eG. And it's the people on the list, the many mentors whom I have had, the help I have gotten...sometimes way out of what anyone would have the right to expect. I hated cooking until into my mid-sixties. Ed did so much of it because I hated it so much. My mother never taught me anything about cooking. We scarcely got along. And I was a learner, a scholar, if you will. I don't mean that I was of a higher level of intelligence...just that my interests were not in my home as far as taking care of it, cleaning it (still loathe that one), cooking, and so on. I loved to learn (well, that's obvious). Ed taught me how to cook as much as I did know. Then one day I looked up a word which I had never heard before 'ganache' and I was away to the races. Came across eG by accident and the rest, as they say, is history. Of course pretty much everything was new and exciting. Nope, it's my relationship with the members. And it's been truly amazing to me. I won't go into any of it, or I'd be tearing up immediately, but the folks who have helped me, not only with cooking, but also with medical and family problems...this has been a wonder to me. It's been a great time. And I trust that I've been able on occasion to pass it on.

It all makes me gag and determined never to buy processed foods at all.

The grape jelly is finished. I didn't keep a close count but I know it's nearly 40 cups in the end. The grape mess will be cleaned from stem to stern and now it's time to do the apples. And it's a bumper crop again. One of the branches is touching the ground. But at least it's not breaking off as one did a couple of years ago. And yes, we are having the backyard apple trees professionally trimmed, but it's too late for some aspects of it. The Mac just grows too high and they can't trim it with their equipment. Thanks again to all who helped me so much in this endeavor.

Good point, helenjp. A few folks are coming out to the farm to collect grapes to make jelly. I asked one thing of them...please educate yourselves as to what the other berries (toxic) on the farm look like...mainly Virginia Creeper and Buckthorn. Also Dogwood. At least know exactly what you are looking for: grape vines...leaves, berries, tendrils, etc. So one couple was coming a few days ago. Had she done it? No. Not in the slightest? Will she do it now that I have made it clear again? I doubt it. Am I now nervous turning them loose on the farm? You bet. That means I have to accompany the couple in this process. Am I slightly annoyed? Yes. You ask yourself...well why didn't they turn up the afternoon they said they were coming? I won't answer that one, but Ed keeps reminding me....50%....50%...

No one has ever said to me...wow, you have such a good sense of proprioception. We even gave up living in a fair sized trailer because I could not live in that confined area without bumping and banging and hurting, etc. And yes, the index finger on my left hand is healing where I cut right into it while snipping the grapes off the vines a few days ago, thank you. No, no the butcher paper would not help. You can't put it on the floor and the walls and the other stuff in the kitchen. Oh, and my ruined t-shirt. Grape juice is insidious. I'm so much better off making ice cream. But I am having a lot of fun.

You are correct CD but I probably will just let this one go by. Yesterday I gave a jar of grape jelly to the field naturalist and his daughter who came to walk our trail and particularly to see the Butternut trees with nuts on them. (As I have noted a number of times in posts, Butternuts are on the endangered list in Ontario and the last thing you want is to buy a piece of pin order to build a house and then discover it has Butternut trees on it and bango, you are in trouble with our provincial organization for the preservation of this, that and the other thing, ORCA. We have at least four but they are not near our house.) I made them promise to put it right into the fridge. I just won't give them away any other way. It's no use. But many thanks for the encouragement.

I have both raisins and currants in my storage bins but I loathe Butter Tarts from the get-go. I could just say that they are too sweet for my taste...but honestly I find them sickeningly sweet and they make my teeth call out "NO!".

A lot of sugar. Ed was almost shocked when I read him the recipe. Three cups of grape juice and 4 1/2 cups of sugar. And it's not sweet in a way which I would find difficult. As in I can't stand Butter Tarts...they make my teeth hurt.

Thanks all for replies. For some reason, I suddenly didn't get any notice of these replies. But then computers have their special ways. As for the counters...yes, I'd like them...but Ed won't let anyone else do any of the work so ...so I'll just stop here. I'll look up Jubilee. Remember I live in Canada and we don't have many of the American products. As for giving food away...I've done it for years now. Pretty much everything...except stuff which is supposed to sit on a shelf. So far, I've asked the recipients to put the jelly into their fridges. But I like @Shelby's idea. And TicTac, you don't eat wild grapes from the vine. Right. They are sour in the extreme. And the only thing I have done with them is make jelly and I have no other plans. We hadn't had them on the farm for the last 20 years or so and then suddenly last year they were there. In masses. Well, this year there are even more and the situation is going to call for pulling them down and cutting them before they take over the non-farmed areas and smother the flowers and kill all the trees.

I will never again...oh yes I will...hold several bunches of wild grapes in my left hand while cutting just one more with scissors in my right hand...and...cut right into the index finger of my left hand with said scissors. I believe I mentioned proprioception already in another post this morning. So now I have a right hand recovering from surgery (and not as well as I would like for sure) and a finger in my left hand hurting because I tried to cut into it. Oh well, the blood is the same color as the grape juice pretty well. Just kidding...there's no blood in the grape jelly.

We went out and picked some more wild grapes last night. That's a week later than the first bunch. Wow! The grapes were all blue in the area we found. Almost no green ones. But then there are still completely green bunches in some places on the trail. I guess it's sort of like tomatoes ripening. I have two questions: 1. Our kitchen counters are 25 years old and not in very good condition any more. They are inexpensive Formica and we are faced with either pleasing ourselves and replacing them now in our final years on the farm and then having to replace them anyway to sell the farm...we can have little idea of how long we'll be able to cope...or just living with the increasingly not-loveliness of it all and then replacing them. We are pushing the end of our existence here...I guess. So....in the interim, the counters are currently getting splashed, dripped on, etc, with staining grape juices. I keep cleaning them off, using Comet to erase the stains, (that's Canadian Comet which still contains the ingredient now absent in the USA version). Should I just leave the stains until this foray is over and then do them once? Or will the stains set in over the next two weeks and not be removable? 2. I've never given away anything like jelly which is "preserved" and presumably not needing cold storage. I don't know anyone off this forum who does any more. And I'm terrified about poisoning someone. I'm not very proprioceptive and fear I'll somehow contaminate the process. How serious is it if someone eats jelly with 'bad things' in it? Can you die? I can't get a straight answer on Google yet. Thanks for the help. Darienne

Three sets of jars filled. And each set bringing a new small chaos to be dealt with as I struggle to learn a new skill. Thanks again, @teonzo. And yesterday Ed halved and peeled 5 pounds of cooking onions and I sent them through the food processor slicer (thanks, Carpal Tunnel Syndrome for having me learn all the incredible things my food processor will do that I always did by hand like a Luddite). I am always stunned by how small an amount is collected from how large an amount after the liquid is all gone. And now neighbors come to collect grapes and soon it will be apples we start working on. And then other neighbors will come and collect apples...ones who don't want to make grape jelly. And in the meantime, hordes of cherries...no I don't know what kind...are left for the birds. ps. I am of course not thanking teonzo for the chaos, but rather for the sound advice. The chaos is mine alone.

Wow! Thanks tremendously. With all the information about how to do this and that, I felt as if I were drowning in it, trying to pick one to follow, and now your post. I'm going to follow it. If I change later how I do it, well that's fine too. (That's what I always advise folks about changing their dogs' diets to raw. Don't drown in research and be stymied by the contradictions. Just pick one that sounds decent. Follow it. And then later...)