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Organic beef, chicken, fruits, nuts and vegetables and canned foods are okay to discuss but not organic milk? I don't understand. Food is food and milk is a large portion of the dairy that most people consume. I guess I should wait for someone else to bring it up next time. The organic market I referenced was in Santa Barbara circa 1978, Sunshine something. Mitch mentioned it once and we were apparently living in SB at the same time. Small world and all.

No strawman, alcuin. We were talking about organic foods, not evolution* or Africa. Raw milk was at one time sold in organic food markets when I was in college, back in ancient times. I picked it out as an example of what some think is a healthier product, when if not handled properly, can be quite deadly. Sort of like giving honey to a baby can be deadly since honey can contain botulism spores. * Proven, but this is not the place for that discussion.

I dare say you have never been to Africa in a business capacity. Graft, it is Africa's middle name. It's first name is corruption. Anyway, Africa is not the topic of the thread and organic farming or foods are not going to save them from famine. Many people are proponants of raw dairy products on eG, as an example of organic farming and dairy farming in particular. I would submit that pasteurization has saved many, many lives by killing E. coli, tuberculosis, listeria and a number of other food-borne diseases. Remember that dairy cattle are not fussy and will lie in their or their fellows manure and an unwashed or not well-washed udder can yield contaminated milk. As well as cows who are not milked on schedule will develop disease and pass it on through their milk. Sanitary measures are often iffy at home dairies.

Africa has a whole heap of problems of which GMO foods is probably far, far down the list. I share Chris Taylor's cynicism about organic foods. Again, from a business perspective, if organic foods could be proven to be better for us, and taste better they would sell themselves. Demand would drive supply and supply would thus increase and prices would become reasonable for the Common Man and not the priviledged few. Organic foods are as big business as any other food product business and just as manipulative in their marketing.

Did you mention any of this in your original post? No, you did not. My point remains the same; you don't know for a certainty that the non-organic fruits were the cause. Many times there are other things going on and we seize on what seems to be the culprit. As I said before, if it is working for you, than certainly continue to eat organic fruits. Your claims of their efficacy remain anecdotal and not confirmatory.

If eating organic foods is helping you with what you perceive to be allergies, than I would continue to do so. Has your doctor since checked you for allergic reactions to foods? As you say, many people are sensitive to foods (it is nuts for me) but not allergic. You have made an assumption about a pesticide that is not conclusive. It could have been/still be something else. Asking questions about the benefits or deficits of foods and how they are grown is merely gathering information and not being "ignorant".

Well, rotuts, you just peel those apples! It turn out my kids were right when they were small and insisted that the skins were "yucky". I'm kind of on the fence about whether Monsanto and its cohorts are The Evil Ones. I'd think, strictly from a business standpoint, that it would be foolish for them to do many of things of which they are accused. They are there to grow food, sell it and make a profit. Profit is not a dirty word. As to their litigating small famrmers who are "stealing" their product, that sounds dubious, but possibly true. Personally, I want a world where no one goes hungry. Or, in the words of Dinesh D'Souza "I want to live in a world (he actually said country) where the poor people are fat." Coming from an immigrant from starving India, I can understand his sentiment completely. Is organic "better"? I remain unconvinced and due to my ever more slender pocketbook, I can't afford a five dollar head of elderly looking lettuce, but rather a 99¢ head of crisp lettuce that is grown in California.

Autism is a spectrum disorder and diagnosed more often today because the parameters of diagnoses are broader than in the past. I've read nothing credible that points to our food supply and certainly the "link" to vaccines has been debunked and its author exposed as a fraud.

He's being deceitful and rude. If he is who he says he is, he shouldn't have any issues with providing the information.

Mine is a work in progress. So far: Stuffed eggs Roast duck (I'm waffling about what kind of a sauce to make) Asparagus Pommes Anna (requested, I find them too rich) Cloverleaf rolls Coconut cake and french vanilla ice cream

Also, make sure you find out which nights he's in charge of the kitchen. Does the bistro have a website? Check out the menu and ask him some questions about menu development.

Well, if you're going to make an apeal to authority, have at. Anecdotely, I lived across from a gigantic industrial farming operation when I was a child. One year they grew corn, the next cotton, the third alfalfa. Rinse and repeat. Eight foot tall corn stalks and full bushy cotton plants spoke to productive land as did the lush, grassy alfalfa. None of these were food crops for humans, of course.

I don't spend a lot of time or money (and, boy howdy, does it cost!) to eat "organic". In the summer, I raise a vegetable garden and put up what we don't eat fresh. If I find toads in the yar, I put them in the garden to catch the bugs. That's about as organic as I'm willing to go.

Me three.

I expect you're right. I don't understand going out to eat, let alone paying top dollar, for something that used to be used for court bouillon. First they came for the cheap cuts of beef, and short ribs now cost a ton. Now, the fish frames.

How was this beef packed, TInCook? You said on the pink slime thread that you had purchased beef in chubs before, but since you didn't say that here, I was just wondering. I usually make pot stickers with ground pork, so I have never had this problem. Ages ago, probably 25+ years, I made a batch of eggrolls with ground beef and I had the same problem you are describing. I never figured out what it was, but it convinced me to use ground pork after that. I would try adding an egg white if you make another batch with the leftover beef.

Heh. Go to Pittsburgh sometime. They say "yunz".

Very nice, Rico! Your kitchen is laid out almost exactly like mine, even with the island/block. Mine is on casters and I have my pots on a rack over it. It's good to know that you can get a burger in Dallas that isn't well-done. Thanks for blogging!

No it doesn't. It's like thinking scraping mold off sour cream makes the rest of the container okay.

The Philastines at my house are apparently right about chickpeas being evil ju-ju. gfweb, you're right about all clostridia being smelly.

Are you thinking of C. perfringens, gfweb? It certainly does smell since it is the cause of gas gangrene, as you know, as well as food poisoning.

It is amazing how many of the winners are either self-taught or work in their own shops and end up waxing the floor with the pros or my least favorite contestant from last season, the molecular biologist with the snarky attitude who got kicked to the curb by a homecook (I think). I know this show is not to everyone's tastes and it is easy to skip. Plus, it's in heavy rotation so you can always watch it later! I like it because it reminds me of the original Iron Chef Japanese version that I used to watch with my kids when we were vacationing at the shore. We'd spend days calling each other "Fukai-san!" (always with an exclaimation point, of course) and yelling "Allez cuisine!" when it was time to cook supper. Yeah, we're a little weird that way.

The one and only time I bought a "chub" of hamburger (don't ask ) it was full of bone chips. I fried it up and fed it to my dogs since they don't mind.

Listen, you hapless douchebag... I remember that microwave cake from last season and thought it was interesting, but dude! Not on Ron's show on tv! I knew Ron was going to drop the axe on him as soon as he sneered "You microwaved me a cake?! My favorite cring-worthy episode from last season was the guy who hacked up a Bonzai tree to garnish his dessert. I watched through my fingers as Ron told him he was disrespectful. This show would be improved by trap-doors in the floor after the verdict is rendered.