Steve wrote:"--like a dessert which promised real chocolate but delivered something overly sweet and cloying rather than bitter and complex. Perhaps I'm too cranky, perhaps I misunderstand the marching orders for and resulting editorial direction of the section, perhaps I'm misguided in thinking that readers at home deserved better--and that they could handle more" and "there were too many simplistic, irrelevant or insignificant pieces which failed to challenge readers enough, which didn't raise awareness enough. Too much of the actual cooking discussion was home recipe-centric and dumbed down." Perhaps its just you - Bitter and Complex to the core of your being ;-) I know the following is not exactly in-line with the discussion you were trying to spur but: I agree essentially that the Food Section seems to be caught in a balancing act between reporting on food and wine in the area and presenting recipes and techniques for home cooks. In the end, it seems that this is both too little and too much. I think everyone is just thinking too much about all this - for God's sake, its just FOOD - DO something with it - Have FUN with it. Maybe it will work out, maybe it won't, so you try again. Failure is good - it is the first and most important stage of learning. So much of what is published these days treats the reader as if they were small and stupid children. If you can read you can cook, cook anything. I look at older cookbooks and they don't have step-by-step photos and illustrations, not even of the final product frequently and yet, for years people managed to make much more complex and time consuming consumables than we seem to be able to manage with the aids available to us today. Perfection in anything is something to attain after trial and error - so people should just TRY and if they make errors they are lucky because it caused LEARNING to take place. I started pouring over the Betty Crocker Cookbook when I was in 3rd Grade and my Mom let me tackle anything that caught my fancy. I had fun, I made all sorts of things that sounded cool at the time: Baked Alaska (flaming), Daffodil Cake, Floating Islands, Chocolate Eclairs, Divinity, Lemon Chiffon Cake... The only thing you have to fear... Anyway, Steve's post made me think about this rant about the perception that everything needs to be simplified for the public. Then they complain that the public can't do anything. So, public, stand up and demand complexity. We need a Tim Russert in the food media. :-) Sorry Steve