hi all, sort of new on this site, and it's nice to see a forum for my neck of the woods. thought I'd put in my two cents: over the past few years I think that while creemore is a good tasting beer, it's leaned more towards and ale character. a quality beer, but a little fruity and sweet for a lager. this means one of two things to me, either that it's being done intentionally to suit the brewer's/owner's taste or the beer is being fermented too warm for too short a time. the creemore guys could have been getting tired and looking to sell. I also think that with the decline in sales of rickard's red(molson is re-vamping it as "rickard's pub ale"), molson needs something to be their "faux premium" beer like labatts has keith's ns