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Look here. Also very far west, but on 46th St. Dinosaur may have a wee bit of trouble attracting clientele to that location. Seems like one would require a car to get there. -mh

I agree; burgers are about the beef. Bacon burgers are for those who like to eat bacon, and use a burger as an excuse to put the bacon on top. That's not a bad thing. I use many foods as an excuse to put ketchup on top. For burger tasting though, I take a plain piece of burger, chew it well and swallow. Sort of like coffee - I have the first sip black to taste it, then add the milk and sweet stuff to make it taste better. Though a LOT of coffee served needs at least milk to make it taste bearable. If it's really good, there's no need to add anything. --mh

How will we be determining whether burger A is better than burger B? Perhaps we should set up some criteria: weight (who will bring a scale? ) diameter thickness juiciness taste: fresh, meaty, salty, and so on odor bun: freshness, size, toasted, and so on served hot? presentation and so on One avoids trying to impose order onto chaos, but if not we'll never move on to the next quest. --mh

The first week of every month, an alumni group from the Bronx HS of Science class of 1970 meet at the Old Town. Burgers are the usual fare (though someone tonight had a liverwurst sandwich!) and I made a slight effort to note the burger quality for our club. One gets a ~6 ounce burger on an ordinary untoasted bun with a choice of sides. The patty itself has a nice fresh meaty taste, seemingly with a high sirloin content. It's about 4" in diameter, bit no more than a 1/2 inch thick - probably flatten on the grill with a spatula while cooking. Not very juicy, though I cautiously order burgers at least medium these days. Ordinary dressing on the side - piece of lettuce, slice of nothing special tomato, slice of raw red onion. Plain costs $7.25. American cheese adds 25 cents. Swiss or cheddar adds 50 cents. Good thin fries. Pints of draft (Sierra and others) for $4.50. An enjoyable spot for a get together. But I'm sure we can find a better burger elsewhere. --mh

That would make an interesting story - sort of an 'Eagle Hunter Dundee.' We could try to make one up, but doubt it would surpass Ellen's real adventures. --mh

Count me in for the 11th at Molly's. --mh

If the purpose of the BC is to find the best burgers, then I think we can rule out the Old Town on 18th between Bway and Park Ave So. However, if we are looking for reasonably priced, reasonably tasty burgers in friendly settings, then it should stay on the list. Their upstairs dining room doesn't open till 5:30, unless there's a lunch session also. --mh

At present, all times work for me, though I'll be away 10/13-16. --mh

I'll join the quest. Burgers are something I've travelled far for; just try to find the best closest to work, home, the Garden, etc. Cafe Luxemburg on W 71 makes a good one. Fries are also part of the burger experience. Can we do search for both burger and fries? Maybe we should specify no ketchup for tasting. I love the sweet, salty taste of ketchup and have been guilty of using other food as a ketchup delivery medium. --mh

Not much to add, but I can reiterate. Thanks, Jane for making the event come off in Fine style. Happy Birthday to Dean and Jason. Great to have met or re-met other eGulleters. Our subgroup not only ignored red lights, but eschewed the very crowed sidewalks in favor of the street during our search for powdered green tea. Portions were the proper size to keep going through the entire menu. Still, I have not yet regained any appetite despite walking quite a ways uptown before descending to the subway. Sorry your carma was off for this event, Katie. I think Herb must be funning us. If not, the joke was on him, since we were there till 3:30. --mh

A couple of nights ago, on FoodTV, there was a small piece about an amateur museum of all food sold in the US. Apparently, Gerber had a line of jarred food intended for for adults that it sold in the 50s or 60s. Sorry, can't remember the name, and a brief net search didn't turn up anything. The product line was not succesful and was quickly discontinued. The museum had other strange items, such as eggs that were made in the toaster. --mh

I've been quiet lately, so I'm posting to let you all know that I'm still a definite. Looking forward to it. --mark

This trip was a Delia's deal no one should miss! Can't wait for Part 4. Coincidentally, National Geographic's latest issue contains a story on Mongolia, but yours is better. --mh

One of Yahoo's favorite sites for today was this one. It's quite slow for dial-up users like me, so I didn't explore all of it. It looks like an interesting site for the cocktail crowd. --mh

Cookies that I bought. Choco Liebniz. ummmm what's mayan luuuuv? I tried to pronounce it and a frog answered me. --mh

I'm hope these relatives don't visit e-Gullet . Anyways, they haven't had dinner at our house for years, ever since the "full cup incident." We still go there to eat. Family is family. Plus they both cook quite well. They give each other numerical scores on each other's preparations. --mh

At my step-daughter's school, Connecticut College, there was a rule that ice cream must be offered every day. It was a clause in a large alumnus bequest. Besides the main cafeteria, there was a 'healthy food' dining room in one dorm and vegetarian food dining in another dorm. I went to college in NYC and lived at home. Food was good when I ate out, and familiar when I ate at home. --mh

We ate at San Domenico about 6 months ago. Only time there. Both food and service were quite good. ==mh

There are many, according to this link to 2246 beers of the world (as of Thursday) Amstel would be the most recognizable. --mh

Paper bags do add a little structure to the stacking in the shopping cart and prevents losing things from the cart during the 7 block push back home. Otherwise, the plastic is better at holding in the cat litter clumps and whatever wet stuff there might be. I'm sure it happens, but I can't say I've seen many reused or canvas/string bags at Fairway - maybe in the express lane. When I was in school, all my book covers were made out of paper bags. (though there probably weren't plastic bags then). We were poor, but brown paper book covers were middle class; newspaper covers were poor. Do school books still get covered? ---mh

Just returned from our weekly major shopping trip to Fairway. Tips - go early, split up and multi-task, use waiting time at the deli counter productively, try to remain calm and civil. For two people in NYC with no car, we fill the folding shopping cart with 6 bags (paper and plastic). Another 4 bags of stuff: pet food, paper products, etc come from other places. I fold the bags neatly (doesn't everyone?) and store them under the sink. We then use them for our trash, which fills about 10 bags a week. So, we're in bag balance. Do others run at a deficit or surplus? (probably a function of time spent folding and crushing). Thank goodness for efficient checkers and packers. Do you yearn for the wide aisles of the suburban market? --mh

I like to add horseradish to my BM's. Fresh grated is best, but the stuff from the bottle works well too. --mh

No Bacon Tues Thurs 8:00-9:30

e pluribus bacon

Coinkydink. I have a lonely Tsingtao also. It's very hot today so it will disappear when I return from my next venture out, even if it's just to get the mail downstairs. I live near the Pioneer supermarket in Columbus, so I buy singles of whatever piques my interest at the time. --mh