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Coquille and I are attendiing the Beard House event at the Borgata casino in Atlantic City, wanted to know if anyone is going? And, also if anyone has been there, who might offer some tips and advices.

Ya-Roo Yang aka "Bond Girl"

The Adventures of Bond Girl

I don't ask for much, but whatever you do give me, make it of the highest quality.

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Atlantic City is the a-hole of New Jersey and a culinary wasteland (boardwalk delights excluded). I have not been since the opening of the Borgata but on my last visit I swore never to return.

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If you're looking for some other places to go (assuming you're not just driving back and forth for one meal and are staying at least overnight), you may want to check out some of the places we tried last time in AC. Most highly recommended would be Crabby's, the Vietnamese place and White House Subs. Here's my post (originally here on another website):

  • Subject: Atlantic City & Vicinity
    From: Rachel Perlow
    Posted: September 07, 1999 at 16:15:32
    Message:
    So, to continue from the “best buffet” thread, Jason
    and I went to Atlantic City over Labor Day weekend.
    As promised, here are our comments on the restaurants
    at which we ate. Only two of the places were
    previously listed on this board, another is most
    definitely worth going out of your way for, if you’re
    looking to get the best crabs.
    We arrived at the SEAVIEW MARRIOTT RESORT (Rt. 9,
    Absecon, 609-652-1800) on Friday, September 3, 1999,
    at 6 PM. As per my mother’s instructions I had called
    ahead to make a reservation for their locally famous
    (it is obviously a celebration destination, “Happy
    Birthday” was sung several times by the live piano
    player (grand piano in the center of the very large
    dining room)), FRIDAY SEAFOOD BUFFET. Unfortunately,
    I had not called early enough – prime times book a
    week in advance – and our reservation was for 9:30
    PM. We got up to the room, unpacked, relaxed, took a
    nap, and were starving by 9. So, we headed
    downstairs, checked in with the hostess, had a drink
    in the hotel bar, and were seated by 9:15. I had been
    concerned that, with such a late seating, they would
    be out of the best items or they would have been
    picked over. No need for such worries, everything was
    great.
    The star of the buffet is steamed 1 – 1¼ lb.
    Lobsters. Many other items are worth your attention,
    as well: very large shrimp with a nicely spicy
    cocktail sauce and lemon wedges, a very fresh crab
    salad (huge chunks of Maryland crab in a light
    vinaigrette with diced vegetables), and my personal
    favorite of the buffet: Grilled Chilean Sea Bass with
    Beurre Blanc. Chilean Sea Bass is not usually my
    favorite fish, however it was cooked perfectly and the
    grill marks had a wonderful flavor. It was served at
    the carving station with the sauce on the side, along
    with prime rib and pork loin for those craving meat (I
    had none, but Jason said the macadamia-encrusted pork
    was good). Revelation: Beurre blanc is a wonderful
    dipping sauce for lobster.
    There were, of course, numerous other
    dishes/stations. These included: a salad station,
    cheese station, caviar (with all the trimmings, but I
    don’t like caviar), smoked fish (salmon and
    whitefish), fried shrimp, fried scallops, pasta
    station with “Scallop Carbonara” (too much bacon
    flavor for me and I didn’t want to fill up on pasta,
    so just had a taste (the scallops were very good both
    fried and in the pasta), clam chowder, some other
    Italian dishes and Jambalaya which I skipped. There
    were also steamed clams and mussels in a Pernod
    sauce. The clams were a little overcooked and the
    Pernod didn’t match well with the mussels. Also,
    there were potatoes and asparagus available. The
    asparagus looked a little overcooked, so I skipped it
    at first, but on a second (third?) trip up, they had
    replaced it with the most perfectly cooked, skinniest
    asparagus I’d ever seen!
    On to dessert: there was a huge array of desserts, but
    I was too full of seafood to try many of them. I
    chose a slice of chocolate iced rolled white cake,
    which I mostly just picked the chocolate out of, and a
    fruit tartlet. The latter was wonderful. A very
    crisp cookie shell (coated in white chocolate to keep
    it crisp) with pastry cream and berries.
    All in all this was a wonderful start to our weekend.
    If you are going to be in the area on a Friday it is
    worth the $50 pp price tag (~$120 for two with tax &
    tip). PS – I just realized I wrote so much about the
    food I forgot to mention the service, which was
    excellent and very friendly.
    Some other notes about the Seaview Marriott:
    The hotel bar was quite nice, with live music at
    night. Room service was prompt (see Saturday Night),
    although we only tried it once. We shared a very good
    Häagen-Dazs sundae (vanilla, chocolate and strawberry)
    with hot fudge, raspberry sauce, brownies and macaroon
    cookies ($5.50 plus tax & tip). I’m still craving
    more of the macaroon cookies, which were nothing like
    the Passover Macaroons you get in cans.
    For lunch on Saturday, we went to WHITE HOUSE SUB SHOP
    (2301 Arctic Ave, AC, 609-345-1564, 345-8599) on
    advice of this board. It is a very nondescript corner
    establishment. Nondescript except for the line out the
    door. We arrived around 2:30 PM (had a continental
    breakfast at the hotel around 11), and had to wait
    around 15 minutes for one of the 9 booths (there are 5
    or 6 stools for single patrons). The most frustrating
    part about waiting there is the aroma and the locals-
    in-the-know who kept walking in past us to place or
    pick up a take out order. Not being lucky enough to
    have another place to eat our subs, we waited
    patiently while chatting with the others on line.
    When we made it past the exterior door, we occupied
    ourselves by looking at the countless celebrity
    photos, which line nearly every inch of wall space.
    By the time the grandmotherly woman in the housecoat
    who cleans the tables summoned us to our table
    (“Next!” – G-d help you if you aren’t paying attention
    when called), we were ready to order. We shared two
    half subs (each half is about 10” long). The first
    was a cheese-steak with fried onions, mushrooms and
    hot peppers ($.50 extra each). I had meant sweet
    peppers when I said peppers, but I learned for that
    you must specify a Green Pepper Cheese-Steak. It also
    had lettuce and tomatoes on it, which I would ask to
    have left off in future. Anyway, the sandwich was
    quite tasty, dripping juices, the beef lean, the
    sandwich not overly stuffed.
    The second sub was the White House Special. It is an
    Italian sub with very good cold cuts, provolone, raw
    onions, lettuce, tomato, hot peppers and oil &
    vinegar. I realized, while trying to get my mouth
    around this sub, that “special” refers to extra meat.
    You can also get a White House Regular, which would be
    my suggestion.
    The staff was very friendly, but very busy and you are
    obviously not encouraged to dawdle. The deserts
    available were Tastykakes, and there are no french-
    fries, just bags of chips. Soda is available as cans
    for 85¢ or a can with a cup of ice for 95¢. You pay
    at the counter, our total was about $18 for two half
    subs with extras and two sodas, including tax and tip.
    Jason was craving Alaskan king crab legs after all
    that lobster and shrimp on Friday night. We had the
    concierge call around to some of the casino buffets to
    find out if anyone had them, none did. Everyone
    seemed to have snow crab that night. So, on the advice
    of a hotel employee, we headed to CRABBY’S (1 mile
    south of Mays Landing on Rt. 50, Belcoville, 609-625-
    CRAB (2722)). It is about a half hour west of AC, on
    the left as you head south on Rt. 50, a little while
    down from the small “Welcome to Belcoville” sign.
    According to their ads they were voted Best Crabs of
    the Shore for the past 9 years. I can believe it. We
    did not have a reservation, but arrived around 8:15
    and did not have to wait for a table. It is a very
    casual, semi-raucous local bar/restaurant. The
    waitresses shout out their drink orders to the
    bartender. Instead of just the staff singing Happy
    Birthday, the bartender gets the entire place’s
    attention by shouting, “Excuse Me Everyone!!! It’s
    Linda’s Birthday, let’s all sing for her!” and we all
    did. He got the crowd’s attention again a little
    later to present some gifts and bid farewell to one of
    the waitresses and her husband, a marine who was being
    transferred. They really make you feel you don’t need
    to be a local to be part of the gang.
    On to the food... We had several starters. Jason had
    the seafood gumbo, which was nicely spicy and full of
    crab bits. I had the steamed little neck clams,
    yummy, and we shared a special appetizer, Shrimp
    Jalapeño Poppers served with Remoulade sauce, double
    yummy, though not too spicy. As main dishes, we
    shared 4 Garlic Crabs (Maryland blues, $4.25 a piece)
    and the Crab Sampler ($25), which consisted of two
    Alaskan king crab legs, two Maryland blues with Bay
    seasoning, a snow crab and half a Dungeness crab.
    The Garlic crabs were completely cleaned, sautéed and
    served with scampi sauce for dipping. They were
    delectable and easy to eat since the underside shell
    and “dead man’s fingers” were removed. The king crab
    legs were particularly sweet, even better than those
    we’d had at Steve’s Pier One on Long Island, NY
    (search for one of Jason’s previous posts for more on
    Steve’s). Although the blue crabs were caked with Bay
    seasoning, they weren’t too spicy because it was just
    on the body shell. You had to take off the exterior
    shell and clean out the lungs yourself on these, just
    as you would in Baltimore, but they were slightly
    larger than the ones prepared with garlic and were
    quite sweet. Of the four, the snow crab was my least
    favorite. I found it too be very iodine/salty, except
    for the largest claw, which was sweet and had a
    texture very similar to the Dungeness.
    My only complaint is that no side dishes are served.
    About halfway through our crabs, I was longing for
    something, anything, green. When asked I found they
    have basically no vegetables available, not even
    corn! We settled for some coleslaw and french-fries.
    Which were both quite good. The fries had the peel
    on, were not too thick and not too skinny and weren’t
    salted, which was fine with me with all that crab.
    Crabby’s has all you can eat specials during
    weeknights from 6 – 9 PM. I know Monday is Dungeness,
    but I can’t recall Tuesday – Thursday, call and ask
    because it’s worth going out of your way for this
    place! BTW – our bill totaled ~$85 with tax & tip.
    We wanted ice cream for dessert, but the place we saw
    on the way to Crabby’s (Scoops) was closed, so that’s
    why we ordered the sundae from room service (see
    above).
    The Seaview is supposed to have a wonderful Sunday
    Brunch, but as we were going to head into AC to see a
    matinee show, the concierge recommended (and made us a
    reservation) at CASA NICOLA at TRUMP TAJ MAHAL (609-
    449-1000) for their Sunday Brunch. Although the
    restaurant serves “regional Italian specialties” at
    dinnertime, Sunday Brunch was representative of a
    wonderful hotel Sunday brunch ($35 pp, ~$85 for two
    with tax & tip).
    Among the standard brunch stations such as omelets and
    waffle (with bananas foster and vanilla ice cream
    available) stations, there was perfectly ripe fresh
    fruit, shrimp cocktail (with shrimp even fresher and
    larger than at the Seaview and extra horseradish
    available if the cocktail sauce was not spicy enough),
    crab claws (a little watery, they were probably
    previously frozen), smoked salmon (with all the
    trimmings you usually find with caviar, but I didn’t
    see any caviar), a display of terrines, cheeses and
    meat pates, sushi (tuna, cucumber and California – all
    made fresh in front of you, though not to order), dim
    sum (hargow (shrimp dumplings) and scallion pancakes
    (very crunchy)) and some other Chinese dishes (fried
    rice, lo mein, chow fun, gailon (Chinese broccoli –
    very impressive for a non-Chinese restaurant, heck its
    even impressive when a Chinese restaurant has
    gailon!)), chafing dishes with pasta, fish, risotto,
    chicken, beef tenderloin. What also impressed me
    (besides the gailon) was the other vegetables
    available, the green beans (with the beef) and the
    asparagus were both perfectly cooked, not overdone as
    can happen when things sit too long in chafing dishes.
    Desserts were a beautiful display of individually
    portioned tartlets, cakes, cookies and wineglasses
    layered with puddings/mousses and Jell-O and/or
    whipped cream. My favorite was a chocolate enrobed
    brownie topped with chocolate mouse (under the
    chocolate dip). The one dessert that didn’t work was
    chocolate croissant bread pudding. As I learned in
    New Orleans, bread puddings need to be made with
    regular bread. Sweet or extra rich breads end up
    making mushy bread pudding, as this one was.
    Dinner Sunday night was at the KNIFE & FORK INN
    (intersection of Atlantic, Pacific and Albany Avenues,
    609-344-1133). After all the seafood of the past few
    days, Jason was longing for some red meat. Advertised
    as “an Atlantic City tradition since 1927 [the windows
    of the dining room were etched with “since 1912”
    however] ... fine steaks and seafood”, it was really
    more seafood than steaks. However, not to be daunted
    we did order meat. But first the starters. It was
    rather windy and chilly that evening so we both
    ordered soup. I had the Manhattan clam chowder, good
    but nothing special. The soup de jour was another
    story, Cream of Asparagus with Crab, it was simply
    sublime, no salty bits of crab, just the sweetest
    lumps. We also shared a plate of fried Ipswich belly
    clams, on the menu as Fried Soft Clams ($19 for an
    entree portion, it was not available as an appetizer,
    only as a main course, although the portion was about
    the same as most plates of fried clams you’d get as an
    appetizer). They were OK, but not great. I had been
    craving them since people started talking about them
    on this board, and none of the other seafood places
    we’d been to had had them.
    As for main courses, Jason ordered the Surf & Turf
    ($38). He was the one who was tired of seafood, but
    the “regular” filet mignon was $29, so for an extra
    $9, he figured he may as well get the lobster tail!
    It was a spiny lobster tail, of course, but very
    good. The filet was very good too, cooked to the rare
    side of medium-rare. My entree was not so perfect. I
    ordered the chopped steak ($19), medium. It came out
    over-well-done. I rarely send things back, but this
    was rather dry, so I did. The waitress was very nice
    about it, Jason gave me some filet mignon to nibble
    and I picked at my fries. However, when my
    replacement came it was more than rare, it was browned
    steak tartar! (I could just imagine the cook
    thinking, “she wants it less cooked, I’ll show her
    less cooked!”) So the very accommodating waitress
    brought it back once again. This time it was cooked
    perfectly. Apparently, the head chef had taken a
    break, she said he was appropriately cross with the
    cook when he came back and heard what happened. I
    wouldn’t necessarily recommend it however, as it had a
    few too many ingredients, more like a fancy individual
    meatloaf. I prefer my chopped steak to be just that.
    To its benefit, it was served with wonderful onion
    rings.
    Meanwhile, the potato side dish was interesting, very
    skinny french-fries (practically potato sticks, but
    not so hard), which they called Long Branch Potatoes.
    We also ordered, ala carte, a side of asparagus, which
    were perfectly steamed, and what was billed as corn
    fritters, which was good, but was really a corn
    pancake, similar to what I make for breakfast, not
    deep-fried fritters. To make up for the first chopped
    steak mishap she brought us another corn fritter
    (which we ended up offering to the parking attendant
    (too full)). After the second, we were offered an
    after-dinner drink or dessert. Being that we were
    totally stuffed and the last patrons in the upstairs
    dining room, we thanked her anyway, but she offered to
    wrap up dessert. So, we brought back a piece of lemon
    pie, which we ate that night (good, but I prefer it
    tarter), and an individual sized blueberry pie, which
    was wonderful shared for breakfast Monday morning.
    Our bill was about $100 before tax and tip, and I left
    a nice tip, as it wasn’t her fault the kitchen screwed
    up.
    For lunch on Monday, we felt the need to eat something
    healthy (after all that overindulging and I was
    starting to feel a little sick with a cold), so we
    headed for LITTLE SAIGON (corner of Arctic and Iowa
    Avenues, 609-347-9119) for some Vietnamese soup and
    summer rolls. As soon was we walked in the door we
    knew it would be good, as it was packed with
    Vietnamese families. Luckily there was one table for
    two left in the corner so we were able to sit right
    down. I knew I wanted beef pho, but there were
    several variations to choose from. I stuck with what
    was billed as Deluxe Beef Pho ($8). The broth was
    mild and delicious, the noodles nicely firm, and the
    beef plentiful, but rather fatty. The classic
    condiments of bean sprouts, basil and lime wedges were
    perfectly fresh. I think what made this “deluxe” was
    the extra large cartilaginous fatty pieces in the
    broth. I can imagine this being a delicacy to Asians,
    but I just picked them out after the first try. Next
    time I’ll either try the Pho with Beef Ball I saw a
    kid at the next table enjoying, or the My-Tho Style,
    which is shrimp & pork in a chicken broth pho.
    Jason ordered Chicken Curry with Noodles ($8), which
    was a soup, although not billed as one. He was warned
    it was spicy when he ordered it and again when it was
    delivered. That’s fine with him, he loves spicy
    food. I gave it a little taste, too spicy for me, but
    Jason loved it, sweat dripping down his brow all the
    way! For appetizers we had ordered spring and summer
    rolls ($4 per order). The spring rolls were perfect
    versions of what I was familiar with (for those that
    don’t know, they are not like Chinese spring rolls,
    they are tiny and have noodles as well as veggies &
    pork in them). I did not care for the shredded pork
    summer rolls (I usually get shrimp summer rolls, but
    even I was tired of seafood at this point), as they
    were flavored quite differently, with lots of anise,
    but Jason gobbled them up. We also shared an order of
    Vietnamese fried rice, which was very similar to
    Chinese Young Chow fried rice ($10), we took half of
    that to go. Drinks were also interesting, Jason had
    iced coffee with condensed milk (“very strong,” he
    said) and I had coconut juice, which was rather sweet
    and slightly tangy, and went nicely with the pho. Our
    bill was around $40, plus tax & tip.
    Well, I hope our little adventure is helpful for those
    on their way to Atlantic City. We left for home right
    after lunch. As the bathroom at Little Saigon was
    temporarily out of order, we made a pit stop at the
    Visitor Welcome Center along the Atlantic City
    Expressway. The bathrooms were clean and they have
    Salt Water Taffy out to sample at the information desk
    (along with souvenirs to buy and lots of info on stuff
    in and around town). Two nice older ladies staff it,
    so stop by on your way into town. May Lady Luck smile
    upon you so you can enjoy some of our extravagancies!
    Giving credit where credit is due: all the addresses,
    phone numbers and some quotes were from the September
    1999, issue of “Shorecast” magazine, found in all
    hotel rooms in AC.

Posted

Okay, I survived the AC trip. While I'm not sure if it's literally a culinary wasteland, but from the looks of it, AC does come pretty close. The Borgata appears to be one of those pioneers that is attempting to turn the place into Vegas. Since I've never been to Vegas, I can't comment on the how close it has achieved that goal.

Appearance wise, the Borgata is a monster structure, gawdy in everyway, and gives off the vibe of an Middle American adult amusement park. The place boasts 11 restaurants, with some heavy weights such as Luke Palladino and Suzanna Foo mixed in with Starbucks and NOW noodle bar, but one wonders if the vast majority that visits the Borgata can really tell the difference between Suzanna Foo and Big Wongs in Chinatown. This is evidenced by a rather interesting conversation my insignificant other (who joined me after the dinner) had with the server at breakfast the next morning. Having ordered pancakes with maple syrup, he preceeded to ask if he can have real maple syrup. "It is real, sir," the server said in all seriousness. "It's Log Cabin." I would have left the conversation at that and just deal. But, my insignifant other, being a chef, decided to patiently explain the difference between real maple syrup and sugar syrup. All he ended up doing was confusing the poor woman terribly.

The Beard house event was obviously an event to promote the hotel and its high profile chefs, with each of the main restaurants coming up with one course of the meal.

The first course was a Toro with ponzu sauce and fennel salad with lemon preserves from Mixx- a Latin/Japanese restaurant that turns into a night club. My piece of toro was had a bit of sinew in it, which annoyed me, but the fennel salad balanced well with the lemon preserve and provided an interestiing contrast to the toro.

The second course was a truffle cheese pudding from Specchio that seemed to have won approval all around, althrough it was slightly broken but no one noticed.

The next course was a squab from Sulian (Suzanna Foo's place), and it was agreed upon all around that the squab was under cooked, and the whoole thing just didn't taste well.

The old homestead charmed everone with a huge piece of steak on top of some wild mushrooms. As a non-red meat eater, I can only guesss that everyone seemed to like it.

Of the whole meal, the biggest waste of food was the dessert, which consisted of dry crumbly cake on top of some thickly formed pie crust with melted ice cream, caramelized pecans and apples. The whole mess was an assult to the senses, and too unidentifiable to be edible.

As far as Beard House events were concerned, this one definitely rates as one of the "more interesting" outings. For all it's worth, I was thankful for the 24 hour noodle bar, and a very hungry insignificant other, because it was how I finally had some really food.

Ya-Roo Yang aka "Bond Girl"

The Adventures of Bond Girl

I don't ask for much, but whatever you do give me, make it of the highest quality.

Posted

LOL--the maple syrup. Reminds me of when I asked a waitress if the salmon was farm raised and she told me no it was fresh.

Had dinner once at Suzanne Foo's and don't know what the fuss is all about. Tasted like Chinese food for Americans.

Rosalie Saferstein, aka "Rosie"

TABLE HOPPING WITH ROSIE

Posted
LOL--the maple syrup. Reminds me of when I asked a waitress if the salmon was farm raised and she told me no it was fresh.

Had dinner once at Suzanne Foo's and don't know what the fuss is all about. Tasted like Chinese food for Americans.

Couldn't agree with you more! One thing I haven't figure out, at her price point, who is eating there? Who can and want to afford it? Then again, on the night that I was there Drew Berrymore and J. Lo were both in the house.

Ya-Roo Yang aka "Bond Girl"

The Adventures of Bond Girl

I don't ask for much, but whatever you do give me, make it of the highest quality.

Posted

I have had the same maple syrup experience many times. LOL.

I am glad to here that AC can be upgraded from total wasteland to plain old wasteland. Thanks for doing the research.

Posted

My insignificant other is still amazed at the fact that "how can a person who is obviously in her late forties, and works in the food business, not know the difference between real maple syrup and sugar syrup?" My favorite incident is in Cape May when "freshly squeezed " orange juice turned out to be "Tropicana". The waitress even showed me the "freshly squeezed" label on the carton.

Ya-Roo Yang aka "Bond Girl"

The Adventures of Bond Girl

I don't ask for much, but whatever you do give me, make it of the highest quality.

Posted

I am sure that there are some legal experts on egullet who could explain the definition of fresh, freshly, etc.

I too am always amazed that 1)people like sugar syrup or corn syrup as a maple syrup substitute and 2)that many people even in the food service industry don't know the diff.

I bring my own syrup to my local diner because they use "pancake syrup".

This summer my wife and I went to Montreal for a few days and we stopped in Lake George for breakfast on the way up. Any way the pancake house we ate at offered "pancake syrup" or you could buy a 1.5oz side of real syrup. Although this particular rest was plain old crap I liked the idea of offering a choice even if you have to pay a premium. I have no problem paying a $1-2 extra for the real deal.

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In AC, why not try Dock's Oyster House. Owned by the Dougherty family for 4 generations, great wine list and BTG selections, classic shore dishes, plus innovative new creations, super selection of oysters on the half shell and right around the corner from Trump Plaza; Also new is Babalu Cafe. Coming soon according to rumors are Smith and Wollensky and a Ruth Chris'.

Phil

I have never met a miserly wine lover
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