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I just received an email from Opentable.com listing the 2003 Zagat ratings for Bay Area restaurants...but only the ones that participate in Opentable. I don't have the complete list because I refuse to pay for Zagat's website. Still, the list provides some clues. Zagat ratings

Makes it pretty clear that eGullet members just don't agree with Zagat ratings. If I thought the Slanted Door was the 6th best restauant in SF, I'd be pretty depressed about moving here. :unsure:

Lobster.

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Small clarification: the link brings to the most popular list, not the food rating list.

A smaller clarification yet, the link brings up only those among the most popular restaurants in the Zagat survey that can be booked through OpenTable.

Most popular SF restaurants as per Zagat:

1) Boulevard

2) French Laundry

3) Gary Danko

4) Aqua

5) Chez Panisse

6) The Slanted Door

7) Chez Panisse Cafe

8) Bistro Jeanty

9) Delfina

10) Farallon

Food-wise, the top two rated restaurants are Gary Danko and French Laundry (both 29 for food), followed by Sierra Mar (in Big Sur), Masa's, the Ritz-Carlton Dining Room and Chez Panisse at the 28 level. Fifth Floor, which has gotten some good reviews on this board, is only rated as a 25 for food, though in Zagat's defence, the surveying for the 2003 guide is actually done in early to mid 2002.

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Small clarification: the link brings to the most popular list, not the food rating list.

A smaller clarification yet, the link brings up only those among the most popular restaurants in the Zagat survey that can be booked through OpenTable.

Most popular SF restaurants as per Zagat:

1) Boulevard

2) French Laundry

3) Gary Danko

4) Aqua

5) Chez Panisse

6) The Slanted Door

7) Chez Panisse Cafe

8) Bistro Jeanty

9) Delfina

10) Farallon

Food-wise, the top two rated restaurants are Gary Danko and French Laundry (both 29 for food), followed by Sierra Mar (in Big Sur), Masa's, the Ritz-Carlton Dining Room and Chez Panisse at the 28 level. Fifth Floor, which has gotten some good reviews on this board, is only rated as a 25 for food, though in Zagat's defence, the surveying for the 2003 guide is actually done in early to mid 2002.

There is no way in a billion years that boulevard or GD should ever be rated higher for food or anything for that matter than TFL. That is a tragedy of magnanimous proportions. I hate politics.

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There is no way in a billion years that boulevard or GD should ever be rated higher for food or anything for that matter than TFL. That is a tragedy of magnanimous proportions. I hate politics.

Not even if the category is 'shit people clicked on last year'? The Zagat most popular list is almost entirely worthless.

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Zagats and the California recall initiative are great examples of the failings of democracy.

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"The best argument against democracy is five minutes spent with the average voter."

fanatic...

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Zagats and the California recall initiative are great examples of the failings of democracy.

Whatcha got against the terminator for gov'ner? :blink::wacko:

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Zagat ratings are based on diners surveys. And more importantly, no one verifies that the diners actually ate at the restaurants they rate. The primary effect of this is intertia: restaurants that are rated high tend to stay rated high, often far longer than they deserve to be rated high.

Bruce

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There is also no guarantee that the review is recent.

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