glenn

Can you make a suggestion what I can bring for tommy?

First off, I think Rosie should be bringing the NZ & Australian stuff, NOT CHARDONNAY FOR FRIGGIN' TOMMY. Next, yes Rachel, anything for the cause, my hands just recovered from typing all that and I can finally use them again. Finally, I'll dutifully bring a bottle of dessert wine and conundrum as requested.

It kind of sounds like there'll be more than enough booze, and I'll probably drink water [sue me!] Does anyone have a request/suggestion of what I can bring? Or it's no problem to bring a bottle of anything off this list... White Simcic-Brda Chardonnay 2000, Collio 8 32 Simcic-Brda Tokai 2000, Collio 8 32 Simcic-Brda Pinot Grigio 2000, Collio 8 32 Laboure-Roi Chardonnay 2000, Burgundy 10 32 Newton Chardonnay Red Label 2000, Napa Valley 14 45 Red Simcic-Brda Cabernet Sauvignon 2000, Collio 8 32 Bogle Merlot 2000, California 8 32 5Ch. Routas Agrippa Syrah/Cabernet 1998, Provence 10 35 David Bruce Petit Syrah 2000, Central Coast 14 45 Newton Claret 1998, Napa Valley 14 45 Rose Ch. Routas Rose 2001, Provence 8 32 Champagne Veuve Cliquot Yellow Label Brut NV, Epernay 85 Pol Roger Brut "Reserve" NV, Epernay 75 Veuve Cliquot Grande Dame 1995, Epernay 190 Laurent-Perrier Cuvée Rosé NV, Tours-Sur-Marne 99 Bollinger "Special Cuvée" NV, Ay 92 Taittinger Brut La Fancaise NV, Reims 97 Krug "Grande Cuvée Multi Vintage", Reims 225 Cristal Louis Roederer Brut 1995, Reims 245 Rose Castello di Ama Rosato IGT 2001, Tuscany 30 Domaine Tempier Bandol Rosé 2000, Provence 54 international red Navarro Correas Malbec 1999, Mendoza 32 Zuccardi "Q" Tempranillo Estate 1999, Mendoza 42 Cape Mentelle Cabernet Sauvignon/Merlot 2000, Margaret River 38 Wirra Wirra Scrubby Rise Red Cabernet Sauvignon/Shiraz/Petit Verdot 2000, McClaren Vale 29 Hope Estate Shiraz 2000, Hunter Valley 30 Taltarni Shiraz 1999, Victoria 34 Paracombe Cabernet Franc 1998, Adelaide Hills 51 Penny's Hill Granache 1998, McLaren 60 El Coto "Coto de Imaz" Reserva 1997, Rioja 36 La Rioja Alta Grand Reserva "904" 1990, Rioja 78 Mauro Tudelo Del Duero 1998, Ribera Del Duero 69 Vega Sicilia "Valbuena" 1996, Ribera Del Duero 165 Kanonkop Pinotage Stellenbosch 2000, South Africa 55 Simcic-Brda Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve 1998, Collio 39 international white Teodoric Sauvignon Blanc Reserve 2000, Collio 45 Neil Ellis Chardonnay "Elgin" 2000, South Africa 36 Groom Sauvignon Blanc 2002, Australia 34 Walter Glatzer Gruner Veitliner Kabinett 2001, Austria 28 Cloudy Bay Sauvignon Blanc, Marlborough 2001, New Zealand 45 Lagar de Cervera Albarino 2000, Riax Baixis 36 Egon Muller Riesling Scharzhof QBA 1999, Mosel Saar Ruwer 32 Teodoric, Teodor Cuvee Reserve 1999, Collio 45 Condes de Albarei 2000, Rias Baixas Albarinio 31 Simcic-Brda Chardonnay Reserve 1999, Collio 65 Domestic red Echelon Syrah Central Coast 1999, California 29 Quintessa, Cabernet Sauvignon, Franc, Merlot 1995, Rutherford Napa Valley 190 Cristom Pinot Noir "Mt. Jefferson" cuvee 2000, Oregon 55 Domaine Drouhin Pinot Noir 1999, Oregon 75 Castle Vineyards Merlot 1998, Sonoma 46 Whitehall Lane Merlot 1999, Napa Valley 42 Lang and Reed Cabernet Franc 2000, Napa Valley 56 David Bruce Petite Syrah 2000, Central Coast 45 Clos du Val Cabernet Sauvignon 1999, Napa Valley 63 McKenzie Mueller Cabernet Sauvignon 1998, Napa Valley 75 Simi Cabernet Sauvignon 1999, Alexander Valley 59 Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon 1999 ,Napa Valley 125 Luna Sangiovese, 2000, Napa Valley 42 Renwood "Grandmère" Zinfandel 1998, Amador 50 Foppiano Petite Syrah 2000, Sonoma 36 Russian Hill "Syrah" Russian River" 1999, Sonoma 51 Jordan Cabernet Sauvignon 1998, Sonoma 99 Château St Michelle "Canoe Ridge" Merlot 1999, Columbia Valley, Washington 52 Ridge "Geyserville" Zinfandel, Carignane, Petite Syrah 2000, Sonoma 70 Mettler Cabernet Sauvignon 1999, Lodi California 60 French red Nicolas Potel Santenay "Clos Tavannes" 1999, Burgundy 68 Domaine Heresztyn Bourgogne Pinot Noir 1999, Burgundy 38 Domaine J.F. Mugnier Chambolle-Musigny 1999, Burgundy 106 Domaine Sylvain Cathiard Vosne-Romanée 1er Cru "Malconsorts" 1999, Burgundy 140 Domaine Armand Rousseau Gevrey-Chambertin Grand Cru "Charmes", 1998, Burgundy 166 Pibanon Bandol Rouge 1999, Provence 56 Domaine de Nizas Coteaux du Languedoc 1998, Languedoc-Roussillon 56 Château La Roque Pic St. Loup 2000, Languedoc-Roussillon 31 Paul Jaboulet Aîné Crozes-Hermitage "Les Jalets" 2000, Rhone Valley 29 Château des Tours Vacqueyras 1999, Rhone Valley 42 Domaine J.L. Chave St. Joseph "Offerus" 2000, Rhone Valley 60 Domaine Renjarde 2000, Côtes du Rhône Villages 31 Château La Nerthe Châteauneuf du Pape 1999, Rhone Valley 75 Château La Fleur de Jean Gue 1999, Lalande de Pomerol 36 Château Charles de Laroy 1997, St. Emilion 45 Italian red Allegrini Valpolicella Classico 2000, Veneto 31 Villa Matilde Falerno Del Massico Rosso 1999, Campania 34 Massolino Dolcetto "Vigna Barilot" 2000, Piedmont 38 Selvapiana Bucerchiale Chianti Riserva 1996, Rufina 39 Zenato Amarone 1998, Veneto 95 La Stoppa "Stoppa" Cabernet Sauvignon 1998, Emilia-Romagna 46 Monsanto Chianti Classico "Il Poggio" Riserva 1995, Tuscany 70 Massolino Barbera D'Alba "Gisep" 1998, Piedmont 50 Le Chiuse Brunello di Montalcino 1997, Tuscany 75 Val Cerasa Etna Rosso 2000, Sicily 36 Falesco Merlot 2000, 2000, Umbria 42 Ceretto Zonchera Barolo 1997 Piedmont 70 domestic white Herman J. Weimer Dry Johannisburg Riesling 2000, New York 30 Claiborne and Churchill Dry Riesling 2000, San Luis Obispo, California 32 Honig Sauvignon Blanc 2000, Napa 28 Gainey Sauvignon Blanc "Limited Selection" 2000, Santa Ynez Valley 38 Eyrie Vineyards Pinot Gris 1999, Oregon 36 Milat Chenin Blanc, 2001, Napa 33 Cartlidge &Browne Chardonnay 2000, Napa 27 Landmark Chardonnay "Overlook" 2000, California 48 Newton Chardonnay "Unfiltered" 1999, Napa & Sonoma 80 Navarro Gewurztraminer "Estate" 1999, Mendocino 40 Luna Pinot Grigio 2001 Napa 39 Caymus "Conundrum" 2001, California 54 french white Paul Blanck Pinot Blanc 2001, Alsace 29 Hugel Gewurztraminer "Jubilee" Reserve Personelle 2000, Alsace 67 Château de Varennes Savennieres 2000, Loire 32 J. Mellot Sancerre "Chatellenie" 2001, Loire 36 Patrick Javillier "Cuvee des Forgets" 2000 Burgundy 34 Domaine A &P Villaine Aligote de Bouzeron 1999, Burgundy 40 J. Drouhin Pouilly Fuisse 2000, Burgundy 35 Bouchard Père et Fils Meursault "Le Clous" 2000, Burgundy 65 Château de La Maltroye Chassagne-Montrachet AC 1999, Burgundy 74 Domaine Leflaive Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru "Chenevottes" 2000, Burgundy 88 Jean-Marc Brocard Petit Chablis 2000, Burgundy 34 italian white Gini Soave Classico "La Frosca" 2001, Veneto 36 Tramin Pinot Grigio 2001, Alto Adige 35 dessert wine glass, bottle Domaine de Durban Muscat Beaumes-de-Venise 2001, Rhone Valley 750ml (3 oz.) 10 58 Maculan "Dindarello" 2000, Veneto 375ml 34 Château de Fesles Bonnezeaux 1997, Loire 375ml 54 Inniskillin Ice Wine Riesling 1999, Niagra Penninsula 375 ml 152 Simcic-Brda, Leonardo Digestive 1997/1999, Collio 375ml (3 oz.) 14 65

Ahem ahem, and my favorite chardonnay too, please. Oh, and welcome back!

pedantic pickleheads '''

How far in advance are these programs taped?

I think Vito's is good but overrated. I like Lisa's better and the one on Hudson around 2nd or 3rd St. Haven't been for a while, but Amanda's and La Isla are 2 standouts, but by far, my fave is Anthony David's Dining Room.

shill. [better than Piccolo's?]

Ok, that makes sense, especially knowing how dictatorial V/MC is.

I'm 10% more commited than Tommy, which is pretty much a sure thing for me, though count me as 1. The wife has plans. I don't care too much, but I'd prefer it a bit earlier considering the last one went on and on and on and on.

I don't get it. If it's true that cash discounts are legit, why isn't this more widespread? Why didn't all the establishments that were charging a surcharge on credit cards before the practice was outlawed, simply offer a cash discount instead? I'm not referring to bargaining with a merchant about paying for tires or whatever with cash and getting x amount off, but a written stated policy, like 5% off for cash. I have never seen this anywhere except gas stations, though not any more. Certainly not in restaurants. I must be missing something aside from a few brain cells.

If I'm not mistaken, the Zagat rated signs indicates a less than stellar review. Otherwise, the restaurant would have the review posted instead of that sticker. It's not just NJ.

From Shaw's article.... >>AS THEIR empire has grown, Tim and Nina Zagat have increasingly stepped outside their roles as pollsters and have positioned themselves as power brokers in the industry upon which they report. When they dine out, they expect restaurants to treat them like royalty, however obnoxious their behavior. According to press reports, they are in the habit of appearing unannounced at the most exclusive establishments and demanding to be seated ahead of ordinary, reservation-holding citizens—so much for democracy—or charging into the kitchen without permission in order to talk to the chef. Because they are the two individuals most feared by the American restaurant industry, their demands are invariably accommodated by fawning owners and maître d’s.<< I can personally vouch for the veracity of this as I have witnessed it in 2 places I've worked. Despite being mostly a bunch of propaganda and only useful primarily for getting phone numbers and addresses, it is amazing what a pervasive effect Zagat's has, at least in NY.

Hmmmm... not so sure about that. I can't find any documentation, but I thought cash discounts were also illegal. Wouldn't everyone use such a loophole if that were the case? What always confused me is why gas stations can get away with charging less for cash. I wonder if the law regulates industries differently, or if states are the ones actually govern such things.

I'm amazed that you're amazed :)).

That would do the trick, but I CAN'T TAKE IT HERE ANYMORE --- I'll be passing right by Gotham Bar & Grill soon, on the way to the movies where I plan to snort as much buttered popcorn as my nostrils allow.

I vote get rid of it. It's not conducive for dieting, though neither is this board. Speaking of bored....

I'll go with the majority, I have no plans until the winter. And I might drag my wife along, though it seems she always has plans, which maybe is what makes our marriage work (at times) :)).

I'll pay you real money to eat the mystery dish my wife left me. [she checks the garbage to make sure I didn't pull a fast one when I tell her how great it was.]

I second Sat [though rumor has it Rosie (and her turley) don't come out to play on Saturdays]

IN 6/1 or 6/8.

At a well-known restaurant in Gotham's beet packing district, the bouillabaisse was priced at $23.75 while all the other dishes were priced at an even dollar amount. When asked about the apparent lack of consistency, the proprietor stated, "The 75 cents covers the GM's salary over the course of a year". [i think her abacus was off.... that would mean selling in excess of 100,000 dishes, or 99,000+ more than they will sell]

I just did a double take, I thought you guys had an event behind my back. Until I noticed it was 2002! You're just bringing this up now!? And if I recall, there was a discussion, or do I have less brain cells than I thought? [rhetorical question!] Something about Rosie "borrowing" your wine, or maybe the other way around. I just remember drinking it. Oh, and fantastic meal and great group, though that should be the other way around.

Tso was utterly ruthless. He smashed the Taiping rebels in four provinces, put down an unrelated revolt called the Nian Rebellion, then marched west and reconquered Chinese Turkestan from Muslim rebels. HE WAS NO CHICKEN

Asbel, it's so good to hear from you!! Don't keep your career a secret! -- you're too good a chef [and nice guy!! --- jeez, I miss all those comps at IM :))].