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It's interesting to see how many questions this innocent situation raises: how tolerant should adults be of the presence of children at "adult" occasions; can young children properly appreciate "adult" gratifications, however costly and refined; are foodies formed by precocious fine dining; should parents claim some grown-up "date time" ; must we do as the French do (eat out sans children) when in Paris. It's kind of Rorschach for the egullet set, '05.
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I second this (though not through any experience at Taillevent) -- especially as regards the 5yo. Can't imagine the experience will be fully appreciated, and I say that as the mother of a 5yo who loves rare magret, shellfish and brussels sprouts! If you've access to a sitter, I'd opt for that! We happily drag ours to one- or no-stars places, but we usually have no choice. She is learning about food, but I wouldn't spend the really big bucks on her yet.
BTW, we'll be in Paris then -- maybe we should get our kids together for a Luxembourg playdate!
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Argh...I keep posting too late. Louisa, why not?
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I will, thanks. (And just to clarify -- the certain age I was referring to is actually unverifiable by photo. It has more to do with the ability to appreciate novelty -- not my otherwise darling m-in-law's strong suit!)
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Ah..okay. That makes sense, John -- I'm forwarned. Still, do you think it's a good bet for pleasing fussy Parisians of a certain age? Is it comfortable and respectably strong kitchen-wise?
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Okay, thanks, I'm really looking forward to it and will report back. My experience there 20 years ago was really unforgettable, food, decor, service -- all heavenly. I realize the mission of the place has changed -- it will be interesting to see what it's like now.
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Will be in Paris around the 25th anniversy of meeting my (French) husband there. After many years of low-budget dinning (first thanks to budget, then toddler-logistics) we'd like to get a bit more festive. We're planning a nice lunch a deux (maybe at L'ambroisie or Le Bristol, per this site) but would also like to treat his parents and our 6yo to a fine but low-key and comfortable lunch somewhere. I had the best meal of my life at LC in the mid-80's -- would the new more modest LC be an appropriate choice for family including a very-well-behaved child and a finicky older French mom-in-law?
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Thanks, Jason, sounds incredible! I'm going to try it.
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Brussels sprouts with bacon and apple sounds good...I've been assigned these and have never made them due to my husband's irrational loathing of anything cruciferous. And maybe the apple aspect gets kids to partake. Do you roast the apples separately and add them later?
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Okay, this is probably a stupid question -- too wide open -- but I have plans to meet my sister for a Korean lunch tomorrow (we're both foodies but essentially Korean-food- virgins) and I'm wondering if Seoul Garden is a good place to to start? (We want do a typical midtown place.) And what's the platonic ideal of a first time Korean lunch -- one that includes barbecue? I'll happy bounce to another thread if this is too much of a hijack!
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Funny, we live around the corner, so were excited about this place, but were really disappointed. We must be missing something. To be fair, we were put off to begin with by being crowded in at table barely big enough for two that definitely couldn't hold a meal for three. Plates had to be whisked away before they were finished so as to make room for the rest. Service, friendly but amateurish. Food...well after reading all these positive takes, as well as glowing reviews in the Times and New York, I wonder if the problem is that we're not attuned to Malaysian food. But there was nothing we ordered (short ribs rendang, the sous vide (?) chicken, a greens dish with fish sauce I barely remember, okay chewy noodles -- the only dish we actually enjoyed) that made us eager to return.
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Last night: defrosted Italian Plum Torte (Marrion Burros) w/ Haagen Daaz vanilla. I'm kind of getting an Italian plum-dessert addiction, but they'll be gone soon, right?
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There's a thread somewhere here about cookbooks one doesn't ever actually cook from, and I remember that a few people said that the recipes from The Zuni Cafe Cookbook were a turn-off in terms of actually inspiring their execution. And I agree -- that's an exemple of too-muchness. The recipes seemed really inspired but poorly conveyed somehow. I think some of it has to do with the way the recipes are spooled out -- just too diffuse or daunting, though I haven't quite analyzed it. Now, a book like the Molly Stevens' Braising Book actually gives more detailed, longer recipes, generally and yet it's so user-friendly that it's inspired an ongoing cook-off thread here. Maybe it's mainly a question of lay-out -- the Stevens recipes are very "bulleted" -- broken out in a way that seems to compell action.
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Last night I just had an absolutely delicious strawberry-balsamic granita at Craftbar (NYC) and now I have to reproduce it. Never having made granita I'm wondering if it really is just a matter of pureeing the berries, adding sugar to taste and a spoonfull of balsamic? Sugar or simple syrup? Can anyone spell this out for me?
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Oh my god, who has figs in excess?!? Serious envy here...
When I lived in France I used to like to make this easy, odd but delicious salad from Simple French Food by Onley:
2 lbs figs (peeled, arrayed on a plate and chilled in fridge)
3 thin slices of proscuitto, fat removed, in one-inch julienne
12 to 15 mint leaves
juice of one lemon
3/4 C thick, unpasteurized cream
Reserve half the mint and half the ham. Macerate remaining bruised mint in lemon juice. Make a sauce: salt dissolved in the lemon juice, slowly stirred into cream. Strew figs with half ham, pour on sauce, add remaining ham and mint.
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Yet another vote for the golden almond cake -- foolproof (as long as you don't let it get even a bit overdone) and fabulous with confectioner's sugar and vanilla ice cream.
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Yes, Helenas, very aromatic shot!
For years one of my regular dinner dishes was Richard Onley's Chicken Legs with Fennel from Simple French Food. Sauteed drumsticks and parboiled fennel separately sauteed with unpeeled garlic cloves, all deglazed with white and finished in the oven.
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Curious if others like Pierre Herme's ice cream sandwiches. We didn't -- found them sort of dry and overdone and stiff, a bit like ice cream in a fancy corset. The shop was exciting but when we got them out to St. Sulpice to eat we took a few nibbles and threw the rest away.
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Sat outside on the deck and had Patricia Wells' tomato clafoutis (basically tomatoes instead of fruit with thyme and parmesan added to the egg/cream batter) -- then smoked salmon and salad. Tested out my Cuisinart Ice Cream maker with Lotus Ice Cream (NY Times recipe -- toasted almond/lemon flavor) and it came out great! Feels like the last night of summer before everyone goes back to work and school.
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Yes, I agree, Bux, it might not be relevant. Hopefully she's long gone! But I mention it because there are a number of other posts here that mention cold or otherwise unpleasant service, and that makes me wonder whether this is typical of the place. I know it's possible to receive worse service, but why put up with less than humane, polite service at any restaurant when we have so many other options in NYC?
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I had a negative experience w/ service there around when they first opened, fully hyped. It was on a bone-shatteringly cold evening and we got there about 6 minutes before their dinner hour. They wouldn't let us in, didn't even acknowlege us stamping in place on the other side of door. A few other people arrive...two minutes to blast-off....and the hostess still wouldn't relent. About five minutes later they unlocked the door with no apology. It was too cold to start looking for somewhere else to eat, but I really can't deal with that ice-hostess thing and we never went back.
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John, I'm printing this out for our next visit, thanks. I can second the Luxembourg reco' -- our five-year-old always makes us spend most of our yearly stay in Paris there, and I can understand why -- insanely great playground! (And since the surrounding park is my idea of heaven, I can't complain too much.) We were a bit depressed by our Buttes-Chaumont visit this summer. We adored it when we lived across the street twenty years ago, and it's our impression that it's fallen into some disrepair. And the playground is tiny -- the duck-feeding's okay though.
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Thanks, guys, the Mercato sounds like a great place, and may even be what I was thinking was that pizza place. We tried Mina once, had a nice meal there, but it's a bit too much of a sit-down thing for an all-purpose meal with our daughter (who's very restaurant friendly but five, and apt to start nodding off in the middle of dinner.) I agree that Terrapin has some good dishes, but I find it less consistently good than Gigi. We've never tried Le Petit Bistrot -- not sure why! Thanks for reminding me of it.
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I'm reviving this thread to ask whether anyone has been to a new pizza/panini place somewhere near Bard College -- someone told me about it, and we have been forlornly driving along the Hudson, searching, to no avail! We used to eat at Gigi's -- had been regulars for years -- but were recently very turned off by weirdly unpleasant treatment by the owner, as well as what seems to be a decline in service and simultaneous rise in prices. The food still seems to us superior to anything else we have tried locally, so we're getting a little desperate.
Lucas Carton → Alain Senderens
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Wow, that's bad news about LC -- I really preserved this memory as the platonic ideal of fine dining, and now I am mad that I didn't find some way to return before it was too late! Of course, there is much else to explore in the present and L'ambroise sounds excellent -- thanks Pim for the suggestion to ask for a special chef's menu of split dishes -- wouldn't have thought of that! As for the Le Meurice or Les Ambasseurs -- why do you prefer them? Cuisine, service, room? Would they be appropriate for my 6yo at lunch (perhaps on a weekend).
Louisa, my m-in-law mostly likes her own cooking, I think, which is understandable -- it's delicious and very traditional. And she likes eating out, but in places that feel comfy and predictable: for instance La Fontaine de Mars or another local place that I can neither spell nor pronounce...Nebuchanozzor...something like that...on av Bosquet. Neither place does much for us, I must say, but I think the appeal for her is that they do not squeeze her in or rush her or overwhelm her with perplexing choices.
Thanks, all!