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I think Lancelot nailed my sentiments exactly. Even those Zin's from producers who's wine will age STILL are totally unpredictable. I have had different bottles of the same wine from the same case be different. One was great so we opened a second, which was gone. I find aging Zin to be such a crap shoot that it isn't worth it.

Cheers,

Rob

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I shared a 91 Lytton Spring earlier this year with friends and it was magnificent.

In February I had both the 91 Lytton Springs and the 91 Lytton Estate ATP. Both were singing and the Estate was still on the way up.

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I am a lover of Rafanelli zins. With respect to the '02, I think it could stand about 1-2 years in the bottle at least. I tasted it on a recent trip to the winery. It seemed a little young as compared with the 2000 and 2001 vintages at a similar age.

Liam

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I am a lover of Rafanelli zins. With respect to the '02, I think it could stand about 1-2 years in the bottle at least. I tasted it on a recent trip to the winery. It seemed a little young as compared with the 2000 and 2001 vintages at a similar age.

If only you could get them. Barrel tasting weekend and getting on the list seem to be the only way.I have a friend on the list so I always get a little of it. :laugh:

Bruce Frigard

Quality control Taster, Château D'Eau Winery

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  • 2 months later...
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having a 2001 ridge zin sonoma station right now and it is lovely. quite powerful, actually. sat in the wine refrigerator for a while... does anyone know whether it would have lasted or improved in a year or more?

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having a 2001 ridge zin sonoma station right now and it is lovely.  quite powerful, actually.  sat in the wine refrigerator for a while... does anyone know whether it would have lasted or improved in a year or more?

I took Carswell's advice and I read Zin: The History and Mystery of Zinfandel. Now I feel much better about owning, holding, and ageing the quantity of Zin that I have!

As always, balance is important. I recently tried some "old" Ridges including a 1976 Lytton Springs, a 1993 Pagani Rach, and 1994 Geyserville. All were singing. I suspect that the Geyserville still had some more time to go and the Lytton tasted very little like a Zin, much more like a refined Bordeaux but was full of rich, dark fruit.

My personal feeling is that the Zins with some Petite Sirah thrown in will age well. I also think that Ridge and Turleys both age better than the 'standard' Zins by design. There are probably more like this, but I haven't experience them. This depends on the style of the Zin, and I find that the Ridge zins especially of more recent vintage, are more refined in style than the typical over-extracted fruit bombs. If you love the latter style, it's probably best to drink yoru wines a bit younger.

  • 3 weeks later...
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My personal feeling is that the Zins with some Petite Sirah thrown in will age well. I also think that Ridge and Turleys both age better than the 'standard' Zins by design. There are probably more like this, but I haven't experience them. This depends on the style of the Zin, and I find that the Ridge zins especially of more recent vintage, are more refined in style than the typical over-extracted fruit bombs. If you love the latter style, it's probably best to drink yoru wines a bit younger.

you are certainly right about Turley, gave one time and it was super delicious. guess i could have sat on the Ridge - might get a bottle for a test... thanks for the Carswell tip!

Alcohol is a misunderstood vitamin.

P.G. Wodehouse

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having a 2001 ridge zin sonoma station right now and it is lovely.  quite powerful, actually.  sat in the wine refrigerator for a while... does anyone know whether it would have lasted or improved in a year or more?

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having a 2001 ridge zin sonoma station right now and it is lovely.  quite powerful, actually.  sat in the wine refrigerator for a while... does anyone know whether it would have lasted or improved in a year or more?

More like ten years...drinking it now is infanticide

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