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On 10/8/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jim D. said:

In your quote from CW for custom molds, you don't include the initial cost for the metal die from which the individual molds are manufactured.  The die is the expensive part.

 

No, no: 31€/mould includes the tooling and the 3D modeling. I divaded the fee by 100 pieces and added it. Note it is from 2022.

 

On 10/8/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jim D. said:

eliminated "margins"

I agree. The 40-cavity molds have no edges and require a piping bag or there is a mess. It could be solved with a depositor though. However I wonder if such a density of cavities doesn't inhibit cooling. I usualy have few bonbons stuck inside CW2207.

 

On 10/8/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jim D. said:

Jungstedt's mold:  4 x 7 layout, 11g, 31mm diameter x 18mm tall

Cabrellon 6024:  4 x 8 layout, 11g, 29mm diameter x 18mm tall

Cabrellon 1728:  4 x 6 layout, 17g, 35mm diameter x 20mm tall

Chocolate World 2207:  5 x 8 layout, 14g, 30mm diameter x 19mm tall

Maybe could you share photos of all of them. I like that Cabrellon 6024 has one more row, however the weight is probably about 9 g only (comparing Jungsted and CW2483)

To the list I add:

1 Hemispheres 9 g for 30 mm diameter, 13 g for 35 mm diameter, 17+ g for 40 mm diameter

2 Pavoni PC5046: 4x6 layout, 10 g, 33 mm diameter x 13 mm tall - it is a 'hemisphere' with a smaller curve, spectacular size

3 CW2483: 4x7 layout, 10.3g, 30 mm diameter x 18 mm tall - it is the same as Jungsted, like hemisphere on a stand, I fancy its standard 30 mm diameter

4 Martellato MA1927: 4x7 layout, 11 g, 26 mm diameter x 23 mm tall - it is a hemisphere with straight cylinder underneath, basically like Jungsted, just much taller

5 Cylinders: 10 g, 29 mm x 14 mm or 12.5 g, 30 mm x 16 mm - I don't know how to mould these, they are always stuck. I guess it is the opposite to your problem? 

6 Dome CW2471: 4x7 layout, 15 g, 29 mm diameter x 24 mm tall - dome shape with concave sides, everyone is using this shape

On 10/8/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jim D. said:

tend to have thin sides

 

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On 10/8/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jim D. said:

what other design are you thinking of

I want 11-14 g. I want a hemisphere with slight bottom, because hemispheres tend to flip. I would love something between 2 and 3. My other moulds are 30 mm diameter, so makes sense to keep the size, doesnt it?. I have to say I am tempted by (2) or something with a diameter of 35 mm. That would truly stand out from competitors.

And if I could temper like a god, I would go for CW1754 :)

Guys I would be thankful if you could help me to mould (5). It is always stuck (there is a 'wet' circle in the middle). The flat top is too thin.

This is great talking haha. Thank you!

 

 

Vojta

Vojta


added (6)

On 10/8/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jim D. said:

In your quote from CW for custom molds, you don't include the initial cost for the metal die from which the individual molds are manufactured.  The die is the expensive part.

 

No, no: 31€/mould includes the tooling and the 3D modeling. I divaded the fee by 100 pieces and added it. Note it is from 2022.

 

On 10/8/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jim D. said:

eliminated "margins"

I agree. The 40-cavity molds have no edges and require a piping bag or there is a mess. It could be solved with a depositor though. However I wonder if such a density of cavities doesn't inhibit cooling. I usualy have few bonbons stuck inside CW2207.

 

On 10/8/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jim D. said:

Jungstedt's mold:  4 x 7 layout, 11g, 31mm diameter x 18mm tall

Cabrellon 6024:  4 x 8 layout, 11g, 29mm diameter x 18mm tall

Cabrellon 1728:  4 x 6 layout, 17g, 35mm diameter x 20mm tall

Chocolate World 2207:  5 x 8 layout, 14g, 30mm diameter x 19mm tall

Maybe could you share photos of all of them. I like that Cabrellon 6024 has one more row, however the weight is probably about 9 g only (comparing Jungsted and CW2483)

To the list I add:

1 Hemispheres 9 g for 30 mm diameter, 13 g for 35 mm diameter, 17+ g for 40 mm diameter

2 Pavoni PC5046: 4x6 layout, 10 g, 33 mm diameter x 13 mm tall - it is a 'hemisphere' with a smaller curve, spectacular size

3 CW2483: 4x7 layout, 10.3g, 30 mm diameter x 18 mm tall - it is the same as Jungsted, like hemisphere on a stand, I fancy its standard 30 mm diameter

4 Martellato MA1927: 4x7 layout, 11 g, 26 mm diameter x 23 mm tall - it is a hemisphere with straight cylinder underneath, basically like Jungsted, just much taller

5 Cylinders: 10 g, 29 mm x 14 mm or 12.5 g, 30 mm x 16 mm - I don't know how to mould these, they are always stuck. I guess it is the opposite to your problem? 

6 Dome CW2471: 4x7 layout, 15 g, 29 mm diameter x 24 mm tall - dome shape with concave sides, everyone is using this shape

On 10/8/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jim D. said:

tend to have thin sides

 

image.thumb.png.38da8d510e842dbef15f1790486ea832.png

 

On 10/8/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jim D. said:

what other design are you thinking of

I want 11-14 g. I want a hemisphere with slight bottom, because hemispheres tend to flip. I would love something between 2 and 3. My other moulds are 30 mm diameter, so makes sense to keep the size, doesnt it?. I have to say I am tempted by (2) or something with a diameter of 35 mm. That would truly stand out from competitors.

And if I could temper like a god, I would go for CW1754 :)

Guys I would be thankful if you could help me to mould (5). It is always stuck (there is a 'wet' circle in the middle). The flat top is too thin.

This is great talking haha. Thank you!

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Vojta

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23 hours ago, Jim D. said:

In your quote from CW for custom molds, you don't include the initial cost for the metal die from which the individual molds are manufactured.  The die is the expensive part.

 

No, no: 31€/mould includes the tooling and the 3D modeling. I divaded the fee by 100 pieces and added it. Note it is from 2022.

 

23 hours ago, Jim D. said:

eliminated "margins"

I agree. The 40-cavity molds have no edges and require a piping bag or there is a mess. It could be solved with a depositor though. However I wonder if such a density of cavities doesn't inhibit cooling. I usualy have few bonbons stuck inside CW2207.

 

23 hours ago, Jim D. said:

Jungstedt's mold:  4 x 7 layout, 11g, 31mm diameter x 18mm tall

Cabrellon 6024:  4 x 8 layout, 11g, 29mm diameter x 18mm tall

Cabrellon 1728:  4 x 6 layout, 17g, 35mm diameter x 20mm tall

Chocolate World 2207:  5 x 8 layout, 14g, 30mm diameter x 19mm tall

Maybe could you share photos of all of them. I like that Cabrellon 6024 has one more row, however the weight is probably about 9 g only (comparing Jungsted and CW2483)

To the list I add:

1 Pavoni PC5019: 3x7 layout?, 17 g, 40 mm diameter x 20 mm tall - perfect hemisphere

2 Pavoni PC5046: 4x6 layout, 10 g, 33 mm diameter x 13 mm tall - it is a 'hemisphere' with a smaller curve, spectacular size

3 CW2483: 4x7 layout, 10.3g, 30 mm diameter x 18 mm tall - it is the same as Jungsted, like hemisphere on a stand, I fancy its standard 30 mm diameter

4 Martellato MA1927: 4x7 layout, 26 mm diameter x 23 mm tall - it is a hemisphere with straight cylinder underneath, basically like Jungsted, just much taller

5 Cylinders: 10 g, 29 mm x 14 mm or 12.5 g, 30 mm x 16 mm - I don't know how to mould these, they are always stuck. I guess it is the opposite to your problem? 

On 10/8/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jim D. said:

tend to have thin sides

 

image.thumb.png.619a10fd4d434b183e40ba14620cb0ba.png

 

On 10/8/2024 at 11:16 PM, Jim D. said:

what other design are you thinking of

I want 11-14 g. I want a hemisphere with slight bottom, because hemispheres tend to flip. I would love something between 2 and 3. My other moulds are 30 mm diameter, so makes sense to keep the size, doesnt it?. I have to say I am tempted by (2) or something with a diameter of 35 mm. That would truly stand out from competitors.

And if I could temper like a god, I would go for CW1754 :)

Guys I would be thankful if you could help me to mould (5). It is always stuck (there is a 'wet' circle in the middle). The flat top is too thin.

This is great talking haha. Thank you!

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