I tried, and failed, to duplicate the Chef Fowke trussing method this past weekend. I need more detailed instructions. The pictures and the descriptions given so far just don't do it for me. What do you use, pullies or something to get the wings to go forward and the legs to go backward. I wound up (no pun intended) tying the tips of the wings together over the breast. But I was unable to find a way to get the legs to stretch out. Do you guys use magic twine? Is this why Vengroff thinks he will get run off of this site if he gives us pictures of the back side of the bird?