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I'm starting a session today. 5.7g of the little bits that have collected on the wrapper when I dug chunks out of the cake went into my good-enough gaiwan which is around 100ml. Water is at 185F. Did an initial rinse. 20 second initial steep. Slightly floral aromatics, rich woodsy flavor, long aftertaste. Some dried fruit is coming out after infusion 2, also about 20 seconds. Infusions 3 and 4 were 30ish seconds. Body is filling out and it is getting a nice thick mouthfeel and long aftertaste. Woodsiness is abating and fruitiness is coming out more.
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Yup. He's informative but loquacious. And always subtly selling his own picks... but that's easy to filter out. He's a font of good info.
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For a bit of preparatory info, here's a fun video about white tea:
That channel is a fun tea rabbit hole to jump down and learn about tea from the perspective of a Swiss/Chinese London tea shop owner.
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Ha. Wasn't the tea kettle... was the circuit breaker... the espresso machine, the microwave and the teapot all pulling current at the same time seems to trip it. A trip to the basement has sorted it out.
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And now that I've captured its soul, my tea kettle has decided to give up the ghost. Hope it is still under warranty.
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Here's my good-enough gaiwan setup. A corelle coffee cup and a strainer basket that just about takes up all the space in it. That's an oolong I've been brewing again and again for the past few days... interesting tea in that the early infusions are close to tasteless, but now that I'm 3 days and 8 or 9 infusions in it is getting very flavorful. No idea why that is, but it is.
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11 hours ago, Margaret Pilgrim said:
Please! You had me Googling the Gongfu ceremony. I am entranced by the tray. THAT is the definition of purpose-designed!
Gongfu isn't so much a ceremony as a procedure... six of one, half a dozen of the other, I guess. It's about higher leaf to water ratios and shorter steeping times, and repetitive steepings.
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Since I don't read Chinese, I don't see what you saw, Liuzhou. The folks I bought it from sold it as BaiMuDan, and to look at it, it looks about like the picking style defined as baimudan... As I understand white tea nomenclature, there is yin zhen, which is just unopened buds, baimudan, which is upper leaves and a late bud or two, and shou mei, which is bigger leaves from further down the stem.
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It is totally an oyster knife. Does the job. Wait til you see my good-enough gaiwan setup.
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So we've reached a quorum and samples have been dispatched. The tea is from a cake I ordered from one of the alibaba-ish direct-from-China sites, DHGate.com. Here are photos of the wrapper and the cake. This tea has been very forgiving in my attempts to brew it... 180F works, 195F works. Gongfu works, more western ratios work. I generally use about 5g, whether doing gongfu or western. But I also use the same tea basket for both styles of brewing. This tea will keep giving tasty reinfusions all day. When you get it, give t a brew and let us know what you find.
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Wow... go away for a weekend and now it looks like we might have a quorum.
I've got a cake of aged white tea that is an interesting experience. First 3 PMs to me with a mailing address will find a few grams of it in your mailbox sometime not too far away. Brew it as you see fit, and report back.
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Where to buy from really depends on what you like and what you know. In Indian tea, knowing a plantation you like makes it easy to google for someplace that has the current crop from there... If you are limited to knowing and preferring particular limited availability blends from a known brand, you know where you're shopping. There are merchants that specialize in, say Japanese greens, or Taiwan oolongs, or Yunnan puerhs, so if you want a deep dive into one of those, there is the opportunity to jump into the deep end. There are also merchants that do tea-of-the-month club sort of experiences, where they'll send you 3 or 4 varieties with enough to have a few good sessions with something new and different... so I have no idea where your taste buds and sense of adventure are at right now... Are you a black tea drinker, or a green tea aficionado, or an oolong appreciator or something else? I don't want to flood you with stuff not relevant to your interests.
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Are there enough people around here who drink tea and might want to revive the practice? I've got a few teas interesting enough to discuss sitting around that I'd happily send 5 or 10 grams of to a couple of people who would participate in a tasting thread... chime in if you're interested. Probably best to keep it within the USA, as sending baggies of vegetable matter through international mail is likely to result in delays and headaches.
And for those who haven't been here long enough to remember this far back, here is an example of what I'm talking about.
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Another angle of approach might be to think of special collections in the library, e.g. when somebody's estate gives all their papers to Harvard. Perhaps there are food people in that mix. Julia Child lived down the street for a good while, did her estate drop her stuff on Harvard or someplace else? Going through my own attic turned up food stuff from my grandparents and great grandparents... menus, promotional postcards for restaurants in the 1920s, matchbooks, etc. People not in the food biz kept that kind of stuff... Does the Harvard library have a special annex for that stuff (like the Harry Ransom Center at UT Austin), or is it all under one roof and administration there?
So it does look like some Julia Child stuff landed at Harvard: https://www.radcliffe.harvard.edu/schlesinger-library/collection/julia-child
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Didn't Harvard do a food science MOOC? I recall some eG people mentioning it a few years back. Was through one of of the MOOC clearinghouses that wasn't Coursera... EDX or something like that. Don't remember exactly. But it was Harvard faculty doing sciency stuff centered on food. Figuring who was behind that would be a good lead to send an inquiry about what faculty have a academic/culinary bent...
edited to add link to the old eG thread:
another edit to add that I recalled someplace had a food/anthropology grad program... but it was NYU, not Harvard... NYC isn't exactly convenient to Boston for a daytrip unless you're well motivated and well funded. .
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Yes... I misread that. The "5 will close, here's 5 remaining open" structure was confusing. And I had the preconceived notion that they were going to use the Chap 11 to get out of onerous leases...
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So it sounds like they're getting out of Manhattan... https://1010wins.radio.com/articles/fairway-market-files-for-chapter-11-bankruptcy-70m-deal?fbclid=IwAR0oSq6unA3Ee49Xb5UTPc0a1LYL8R1L6vgkcbhr2KLxtUzYBR-IgAW78wk
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The NY Post is not the most credible source... and Fairway themself seems to be denying it. This is not the whole story. I'll be sad if they go belly up, but I'm not sure that the epitaph is chiseled in stone yet.
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Silly Beer
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And the orange zest and coriander are very traditional in the Belgian white beer recipe... the only off the wall addition is the grapefruit juice, and that is following the trend of bottled radler coming out of Germany.
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Silly Beer
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That brewery has been around quite a while... and given the Belgian propensity to push the rules of brewing in interesting directions, your crack about the name has probably been making the rounds for at least a century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasserie_de_Silly
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2 hours ago, gfweb said:
Fels-naptha. A brick of toxic waste, basically. We always had that around the house too
I use it still to wash when I get into poison ivy... Fels Naptha washes away the irritant resin pretty effectively. Never understood how it got used as a laundry soap.
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inverter whatsit is a thing the Panasonic microwaves have. I've been really happy with Panasonic microwaves.
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Yup. An easy rabbit hole to jump down. She strikes me as mashup of ancient Chinese farmer and Martha Stewart.
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Group tea tasting: Fuding BaiMudan White Tea
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You've hit the fruity middle steeps. It keeps on going and going.
On the Mei Leaf front, I've never done the boil the white tea leaves at the end thing that he advocates. I might have to try that after about infusion 15.