lou, while i understand and appreciate your passion on this topic, i will venture to say that you misinterpreted my words. i was merely suggesting that the fucked ABC laws regarding BYO restaurants go largely ignored, i.e. no hard liquor, no pouring or opening of wine, etc. i was in no way making a statement on byo vs. licensed restaurants in NJ. that, of course, is an entirely different issue, worthy of its own thread. oh, and, if you've been following my comments for 3+ years, surely you know by now that i *rarely* think before i speak. surely.