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lamb=shephers pie tilapia = fish stew chicken = chicken salad

2 pro complex shakes / day in whole milk. a bananna in the shakes, and a dab of Ca from somewhere else will get uou @ or above 100% of your daily requirements for about 4 bucks......... my sister in law went through a cancer scare w/ lymphoma not long ago.... she found she felt much better if she pushed her body to get as much physical excersize as she could bear......walk, and walk some more if you can...... she's clean now, but that can always change...... God bless................john

if you can detatch yourself from the topic in terms of science, foodieism, and 1960's counterculture combined with old world nuance and pseudo sophistication........ imagine you are a risk ascesment analyst for a major insurance provider..... your employers have told you to make a call on this topic......... your company will then notify all policy holders and their lenders regarding carriers position based on YOUR recomendations...... what do you do?... tell'em go for it these raw milk cheeses are the bomb, the 60 day rule is great.... tell'em hell we don't even need the 60 day rule, people in europe aren't dying, plus the stuff tastes great, AND as a bonus, we not only foster harmony with our fellow man, but we can single handedly revitalize the family farm........ or...tell'em this is a hot potato, and it's in our best interest to cancel policies to producers of raw milk product regardless of the fda decision. it's too easy to insure business' of lower risk, we should pursue new business and eliminate these policies from our portfolio..... are the insurance muckity mucks thinking about the gorganzola they had in Italy while on 2nd honeymoons w/ wives??? or are they gonna think about their condo at the beach, the kids in college, and paying for their gf's boob job and tummy tuck ..... think about it, they don't care about thier own palate, let alone fat guy's... they most likely wouldn't know the diff between a pice of emmental and kraft sliced swiss at the g- store........ follow the dollar...the decision will be made over cocktails and cigars. ....

140 calories is not a meal........ the most expensive component of that drink is the protein 7g..... an egg has 7g of protein...... the cost of the can is higher than the cost of the ingredients........ no thanks,,,,,,,,

stick around it's gonna get better....... we haven't even broached the "save the small farmer" topic yet........ it's one of my all time favorite debates......... mostly because you can't win it, and you can't lose it either..... if you do go to the store, pm me a wheel of that blue...... thanks in advance

i agree 100%... so these risk profiles are a concern of whom??? let's try lending institutions and insurance companies...for the win. you cannot operate a business w/out some borrowed capital and you cannot borrow money without showing proper insurance. if you are operating a cheese making plant, running a dairy, or buying a car, you're gonna have to have insurance. hence the risk profile. you can win the fight with the fda but still get dropped by your insurance carrier... do you still want to sell raw milk cheese w/out any product liability insurance.... you can, but your banker wont be very receptive to the idea, as in cut off your line of credit, maybe call in your notes........ those realities are pretty far removed from the romantic notions of a bottle of wine, hand made cheeses, and a picnic lunch with a beautiful french girl.........

mal........ if all you want are simple carbs, just eat icecream, or grab a snickers and a pepsi, or gatorade.......... hard to help w/out more 411

anybody ever use barley in these same ways....... hulled barley, pearled barley, rolled barley............ then any arrangement of aforementioned "condiments"....... i have, and there is such a wonderful chewiness.....amazing

ironically you can have lysteria and other pathogenic contamination with pasturized milk.....so it's not goof proof, you still have to be pretty damn careful with your plant design, sanitation, and make process...... having been involved first hand in the farmstead cheese business for about four years i can say that it's TOUGH........ i'm a bag of mixed emotions when it comes to international cheese trade, hippies, slow food, lesbians, gays, country of origin labeling, astrology, numerology, and a host of other issues that interest me but are out of my sphere of influence......... i know some of the people in the raw milk cheesemakers, i find it hard to belive they'll hold back the winds of change, nor will their european counterparts, who may be romanticized by a few, are unknown by the remainder........ raw milk cheese will become an element from history, and at first it will be missed by many, then a few, then by none....... these people are not getting fabulously rich in the aritsan cheese industry, even the most successful can't really brag in a room about their wealth... for instance, sid cook, carr valley cheese, hugely successful at handcrafted cheese, where does he make his money??? commodity cheese....... i heard it from the man himself..all this other stuff, is just stuff..... i hope i'm wrong........

optimum nutrition try looking here, there are some really good powders out there that are much cheaper than the canned stuff........ this company's stuff tastes much better than any other i've tried........ the pro-complex product is awesome in milk.......

i wonder what the driver is behind changing the 60 day rule, which seems to be working quite well........ i almost wonder if insurance companies aren't involved somewhere seeing as they are writing all the product liability policies for the artisinal/farmstead cheese industry........ well written article.......

this is dessert oatmeal to be serve after the savory breakfast courses... beverage of choice here is kalua and coffee w/ whip creme bump, or, hot chocolate 1/2 and 1/2 w/ peppermint schnapps....... pinhead oats in water w/ salt....cooked medium ...a little toothy... 2 scoops pro-complex dietary supplement by "optimum nutrition" vanilla flavor..... granny smith apple slices, pecans and a sweet potato disk carmelized w/ butter , brown sugar, nutmeg,cinnamon,alspice and blackpepper ..... small scoop of natural vanilla bean icecream...... 1-2 shots cognac.........por one on top, drink one on the side.....

wikipedia for the win... artisan = craftsman (noun) artisanal bread= bread made by an artisan???

are you working out for weight loss / health benefits, or are you trying to grow your muscles / gain weight......... theres a big difference in diet depending on what your goals are.....

do they have the skin on them??? if they do, you'll have to remove it... if they're big, you may want to halve or quarter them... i've always eaten them with a simple breading, then deep fried... you may want to soak them in salt water 24 hrs or so, sometimes boar meat of any kind can get pretty musky from hormones that sexually mature male swine have.....

i use 1/2 ground pork, 1/2 ground beef......don't drain the fat...... packaged mccormicks seasoning but @ only 1/2 the recommended amt, imo this keeps the meat from being overpowered by the spices.... i hate manwich, my mother and my wife think it's awesome.....not me a little beer to hydrate the spices.....i to a consistency between "sloppy", and what you would find on a good loose meat.... cheap buns.... topping=potato chips...... clausen dill pickle spear on the side ftw........

and have we all forgotten the time tested s'more??????????? pb, marsh mallow, semi-sweet chocolate, melted on grahm crackers........ cooked on the bonfire, while kissing jr highschool girls..(classmates btw)... ahhh memories.......

grilled. xtra crunchy jif w/ velveeta and smuckers strawberry presv. on whole wheat........buttered for the win,(and the trip to the ER)......

here's my .02$......... bleu cheese is great on burgers. if you like bleu cheese. sliced cheese is a better overall product than crumble, in terms of sourcing and waste......... i'd try a poppyseed bun for the dogs........you're close enough to chicago maybe a higher quality seeded bun for the burgers. i'd try concocting a "wolverine burger" special w/ bleu cheese and something yellow or gold to mimic the college colors......try them on a game day and see how it go's. good luck....... maybe a bleu burger and a dog w/grilled golden peppers could be your gameday 2 sammich special......... dumber things have worked.........

i could never cut a grilled cheese sammich . the velveeta runs everywhere.... oh, it doesn't.....

chef b.......... kudos, and i'm glad you answered the ? about the "wabbit" pie ......... i have been chuckling to myself for some time........... regards, john

oddly enough i was thinking about this earlier today.... ...when you post in various forums,stuff like....... ... "looking for good burgers in Paris"... ..."any great Indian rest. in Maine"......... ..."want philly cheese steak in Atlanta".......... ..."best krispy kreme substitutes in Bangkok".......... ..."needing chicago dog in mexico city, please help".... ...."the global and spiritual importance of eating local"......... ....then, and only then, do you know ... that you may be one ....... ...sorry to ruffle any feathers, with brash sarcasim....... regards, in all good humor..............john

when you whack their heads, let go of their wings, but hold onto their feet..............hold upside down if you can......... the wings will flap like a bitch, the legs will move in your hands,........... the blood will shoot out of their neck......... when they stop flapping dunk em in the hot h2o...... btw jen....how did the univ kill the birds????

jiff extra crunchy / honey........... cheap white bread......... cold milk........ low brow for the win.......

bury the remains in the corn patch........ put the feathers, heads, feet and entrails in 5 gallon buckets and bury it....... use a leaf rake to clean up the feathers that will inevitiably be blowing around the yard........