The Jefferson / Hudson County

[tommy]

There's  Italian and then there's Italian.

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that's very true. and it's important to remember that neither is necessarily incorrect.

[ghostrider]

Yep. And even when I think I'm correct, I'm not going to argue with generations of Italian-American culture!

[jon777]

i agree that there are several demographics in hoboken, and the people in their 30-50 have quite a bit of disposable income.  but, i don't notice a whole lot of them going out when compared to the 20 something set.  perhaps they have kids, perhaps they go out in the city, perhaps they spend their money on travel and other things.  whatever it is, if you're not winning over the 20 somethings, you're losing out on a lot of business.  (i should note that my anecdote above was meant purely for entertainment, and not for any real and accurate comment on the state of the restaurant business in hoboken)

i lived in hoboken for 15 years and still have ties there.  friends of mine have said the Jeff is often dead.  but, that's not a very scientific survey, and i wouldn't begin to guess why're they're packing up.  i'd love to know, though.

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Everytime I've been there (or been past there) the place has been busy -- am very surprised (and dissapointed) that they're moving out. As a 15 year resident of Hoboken and someone who eats out somewhat regularly, I can safely say that Hoboken is definitely a mix of demographics. You have a very large 21-29 set, who are more interested in the "scene" than the food. You find many of them across the street at Madison's across the street (same owners as the Jeff -- pretty good food as well, but a big bar with a happening scene). The 30+ set in Hoboken, does have good disposable income, but often either go into NYC for their more high-moderate/upscale dining or have young children and don't get to Jefferson enough.

I've been in Hoboken the past 13 years and have scene it change (mostly for the better) in many ways, especially in terms of good restuarants. When I first moved here, outside of Italian food and a steak (F&Js or Arthurs for low budget) there wasn't much of anything that was particularly noteworthy. This past 5 years have seen a variety of very good places -- it will be a shame to lose Jefferson, as it was unique, with excellent food, and fit well in Hoboken.

Venue (another recent casualty), I'm not surprised is closed, as it was never busy on a walk by, despite very positive press. Too avant-guarde for Hoboken and our visitors unfortunately. And very few things draw the NYers who would appreciate it to hop on the PATH and experience it. And as well, I blame myself, as it's a place I've always meant to go, but never got around to it. Blame me -- however, I can't take the blame for the Jeff...

[jon777]

Drove by The Jefferson last night and it was completely dark. Am sorry to say that it looks like the rumors are true and that it's closed (unless they're on summer vacation or something).

Sad loss for Hoboken... Really enjoyed it on the occasions we went (last time was for Father's Day)...

Don't know if the previous rumors that it was sold to the owners of Sushi Lounge are true -- hope it doesn't turn into another Sushi place -- unless it's truly outstanding -- we've got plenty of Sushi in town...

[Curlz]

You beat me to it, Jon...it's true, and I agree, it's VERY sad, but The Jefferson is closed. When I asked earlier this summer if they would be open at least through Labor Day, I was told that they thought so, but couldn't confirm for sure. I went to Hoboken Sunday night and was hoping to have a last glass of wine on the back patio, but alas, I was too late.

The good news is that they're planning to open a chophouse on the other end of Hoboken; not sure how quickly, but I think they were shooting to get it up and running this fall.

[Cook456]

You beat me to it, Jon...it's true, and I agree, it's VERY sad, but The Jefferson is closed.  When I asked earlier this summer if they would be open at least through Labor Day, I was told that they thought so, but couldn't confirm for sure.  I went to Hoboken Sunday night and was hoping to have a last glass of wine on the back patio, but alas, I was too late. 

The good news is that they're planning to open a chophouse on the other end of Hoboken; not sure how quickly, but I think they were shooting to get it up and running this fall.

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My cousin is on the zoning board. I'll see if I can get any info from her.

[jon777]

The good news is that they're planning to open a chophouse on the other end of Hoboken; not sure how quickly, but I think they were shooting to get it up and running this fall.

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A chop house would be a nice addition if done right (and certainly they got the Jefferson right, so I would certainly be excited...)

Right now, Frankie and Johnies is the only Hoboken place to go for a good steak. Although, to be honest, I haven't been there in several years. At their price point, I'll tend to go to NY either to Lugers or Sparks. Or save a few $$, grab some great meat and grill myself...

[plattetude]

A chop house would be a nice addition if done right (and certainly they got the Jefferson right, so I would certainly be excited...)

Right now, Frankie and Johnies is the only Hoboken place to go for a good steak.  Although, to be honest, I haven't been there in several years.  At their price point, I'll tend to go to NY either to Lugers or Sparks.  Or save a few $$, grab some great meat and grill myself...

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Well, there is another steakhouse on the cusp of opening in Hoboken, Shades of Hoboken, purported to open next week. As you'll see, there's not much in the way of humility in the prose on the website; time will tell if they live up to their own hype. I was particularly interested (and not a little amazed, frankly) to see Bucky Pizzarelli listed as one of the regular Friday/Saturday jazz players.

Christopher

[Curlz]

WOW...you're not kidding...Bucky P is a fantastic, world-renowned jazz guitarist; that's QUITE a coup on their part, imo. Wonder if he has any connection to the place!

And it's interesting, b/c iirc, the new place the owners of The Jeff were talking about is supposed to be in that part of town as well.

[nanyun]

Sorry for the thread hijack but Bucky P must be local b/c I know he's playing at Liberty State Park's Free Summer Concert Series in August.

[Curlz]

Yes, he's local...Upper Saddle River, iirc; wherever it is, definitely a northern NJ resident.

[Cook456]

Sorry for the thread hijack but Bucky P must be local b/c I know he's playing at Liberty State Park's Free Summer Concert Series in August.

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Yes, Nanyun,

He is a NJ native.