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Great report Craig. These wines have been fantastic in all recent vintages. especially Crognolo. It's really a bargain, for the quality. However.... the boys and girls at Kobrand have been pushing up the price of Oreno. I guess they can read reviews too, and sadly it will approach the "C-note" a bottle price tag

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Grapes - the wine company in Rye, NY lists the 2001 Oreno at $56.99

Abalat in Petaluma CA lists a pre-sale on it at $52.50 with mags for $105.50

I can't find any Canadian listings on the 2001 yet.

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I just goy a pre-sell from Kobrand yesterday ( how ironic) for Connecticut

$399.00 a 6-pack (66.50) go figure for 2001 Oreno

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Perhaps as people become more aware of international pricing at places like eGullet it will become more difficult for large importers like Kobrand and Paterno to place 40 or 50% margins on wines.

Well we can dream anyway. :rolleyes:

My guess is they raised prices because Oreno made it into the Wine Spectator 100.

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And........... That is one of the major problems in the Wine Biz today.

Many years ago, I was selling Kistler Dutton Ranch for $16.99 a bottle. We liked it, and we were selling a ton. Our distributor was more than happy to keep the juice flowing. Then............ Spectatorized, Parkerized NO MAS VINO.

Fast forward to 2004. We don't even see a bottle. Kistler illegally ships to our customers......... and they (some of them) don't want it, and want to sell it to us!

So now we should buy at Retail, and resell ( and people will buy it) at a higher price.

We have now entered the world of the 4-tier system

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