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  1. The new edition of The Great Tea Rooms of America by Bruce Richardson came out this summer. In this edition, he also included for the first time a section on The Great Tea Shops of America. (For a discussion of the Great Tea Rooms of America go here.)

    All lists are fodder for discussion, so what do you think of Bruce Richardson's list of the Great Tea Shops of America? Which ones have you been to or ordered from and what did you like or dislike about them. Any you think should have been included that he left off? Any on it that you think should have been left off?

    Great Tea Shops of America

    The Cultured Cup - Dallas, Texas

    The Perennial Tea Room - Seattle, Washington

    The Tea Cup - Seattle, Washington

    Tea Embassy - Austin, Texas

    Teance - Berkely, California

    Teaism - Washington, D.C.

    Tea Source - St. Paul, Minnesota

  2. The new edition of The Great Tea Rooms of America by Bruce Richardson came out this summer. In this edition, he also included for the first time a section on The Great Tea Shops of America. (For a discussion of the Great Tea Shops of America go here.)

    All lists are fodder for discussion, so what do you think of Bruce Richardson's list of Great Tea Rooms of America? Which ones have you been to and what did you like or dislike about them. Any you think should have been included that he left off? Any on it that you think should have been left off?

    The Great Tea Rooms of America

    Alice's Tea Cup - New York, New York

    www.alicesteacup.com

    Butchart Gardens - Victoria, British Columbia

    www.buchartgardens.com

    Cliffside Inn -Newport, Rhode Island

    www.cliffsideinn.com

    Disney's Grand Floridian Resort - Lake Buena Vista, Florida

    www.disneyworld.com

    The Drake Hotel - Chicago, Illinois

    www.thedrakehotel.com

    Dunbar Tea Room - Sandwich, Massacheusetts

    www.dunbarteashop.com

    Dushhandbe Teahouse - Boulder, Colorado

    www.boulderteahouse.com

    The Fairmont Chateu Lake Louise - Lake Louise, Alberta

    The Fairmont.com/lakelouise

    The Fairmont Empress Hotel - Victoria, British Columbia

    www.fairmont.com/empress

    Grand American Hotel - Salt Lake City, Utah

    www.gradamerica.com

    Lady Mendell's

    The Inn at Irving Place - New York, New York

    www.innatIrving.com

    Miss Mabele's - Dickson, Tennessee

    www.missmable.com

    Queen Mary Tea Room - Seattle, Washington

    www.queenmarytea.com

    Rose Tree Cottage - Pasedena, California

    www.roseteacottage.com

    Samovar Tea Lounge - San Francisco, California

    www.samovartealounge.com

    St.James Tearoom - Albuquerque, New Mexico

    www.stjamestearoom.com

    The St. Regis Hotel - New York, New York

    www.stregis.com

    Tea Leaves & Thyme - Woodstock, Georgia

    www.tealeavesandthyme.com

    The Tea Room - Savannah, Georgia

    www.savannahtearoom.com

    Windsor Court Hotel - New Orleans, Lousiana

    www.windsorcourthotel.com

  3. I recently ordered two Indian black teas from TeaSource: http://teasource.com and they were excellent.

    One was a 2008 Casteton Estate 2nd Flush Wiry Darjeeling and the other was my first Nilgiri, a Handmade Glendale Estate. The packaging was in gold opaque zip lock standup bags. Fast, inexpensive shipping to me since it is located in the US.

    Tea Source has a large number of Darjeelings and Nilgiris. They have helpful, brief, but detailed descriptions of each tea on their site that provide a good picture of how one differs from others due to harvesting season, elevation, soil, etc.

    I think I'll enjoy exploring these teas further if these two examples say anything about the quality of TeaSource's offerings.

    Has anyone else tried TeaSource?

    Any other vendors of black teas you recommend?

  4. Tonight I am drinking a Mariage Freres Metis, an herbal, flavored South African tisane from The Cultured Cup. I have not had this tea in a couple of years and like it better now. Perhaps Mariage Freres has changed the blend subtly. Or maybe it's me. Don't know, but it is pleasant and relaxing.

    So what's in your tea cup today?

  5. I have tried one of the two teas I picked up and think it goes to show that the exception (Greg's find) proves the rule.

    This is a Tikuan Yin in a gold-colored hexagon shape tin container with double lids. It is labeled -

    Fujian Oolong Tea

    Tikuan

    Yin

    Fujian Tea Import & Export Corporation

    125 grams

    After trying it - flat, what flavor there was crashing after a few seconds - I decided to dump the tea.

    The great thing about these Asian market teas is that they often come in attractive tins that make for inexpensive containers for other tea. A tin double lidded 1/4 pound tea container from any other source would likely cost at least $6 plus shipping vs $3.99 for this tin full of tea.

  6. Hello- My favorite Chinese market has an amazing 8 year-old pu'er. They buy it in bulk and you can buy the exact amount that you want.I was not able to find this tea on the website,but I have very limited computer skills.

    That's great, naftal. I think it is unusual to find bulk teas in an Asian market...or most grocery stores of any type.

  7. I got in a 2008 Darjeeling Castleton Estate 2nd Flush (wiry) from TeaSource last week, so it's in my cup today. I really like Darjeelings and this one is terrific. The dry aroma of the leaves alone is worth the price of admission. Gorgeous wet leaves. A little astringency, medium-light bodied, fruity (but not a fruit bomb).

    The wiry nature of the leaves makes it difficut to eye-ball amount, so I measured out 2.5 g per 120 ml (4 ounces) of water. Brewed western style at about 208 F for 2 minutes on the first infusion. I'll increase that to 3 minutes on the second.

    This 2008 is a little different than the one from 2007 I had a few days ago. I'll have to do a side-by-side comparison with the two of them.

    Any other Darjeeling lovers here?

    So, what's in your teacup today?

  8. Regarding DIYS herbal blends ---

    I have picked up a few things at a Whole Foods (which carries much less in the way of bulk teas and herbs than they used to) and a couple of Asian markets, plus very good Chamomille from TCC, but am having a difficult time finding many of the ingredients teagal and Gre Glancy have mentioned.

    Does anyone have web sources you like for these ingredients?

  9. I am not familiar with the Berkey line and would like to try one sometime, even though the water here is pretty good most of the year - and even with just the Britta does a decent job for my tea. When the lakes (resevoirs) turn over, some area water supplies can take on an off-taste for a few weeks, but the Britta deals with that fairly well.

    I do use the Britta filtered tap water for coffee, too, and can tell a difference. Not as much as I can with tea, but the difference is there.

    There are competitors to the Britta filter pitchers. Has anyone used both the Britta and any of the others?

  10. Today my first try of a 2008 Yi Wu Mountain Bamboo Raw Pu-Erh. This is from Norbu, the new tea import enterprise of eG Society member Greg Glancy. (In the interests of full disclosure, I have known Greg for two or three years, having first met him at a Cultured Cup T-Bar meeting in Dallas where he gave a presentation on his travels in the tea growing regions of China and Tibet. No financial interest in Norbu on my part.) Greg threw in this free 10 g sample of the Bamboo Pu with my order.

    This is a very easy to drink young sheng (raw) pu-ehr. I brewed it gongfu style, with a 10 second rinse and so far two infusions: 1- 10 sec, 2- 20 sec. The first was more astringent than the second. Sweet, with a pleasantly sweet and astringent after-taste. This may be a drink now or in the next few years sheng. It doesn't have the oomph that would suggest great aging potential.

    So what's in your tea cup today?

  11. A couple of posts in the Coffee and Tea forum have raised the issue of the importance of water quality to getting the best cup. One by naftal and this by andiesenji.

    Well, it was a whole two weeks.  Too long to be without my faves!

    As I mentioned on another thread, I like my Senseo coffee first thing in the morning, however I then transition to tea and drink various types until late in the evening.

    Thus the caffeine-free teas - although caffeine does not keep me awake, I had promised my doctor to avoid it in the evening so it wouldn't affect my blood pressure.

    I do try to be good - as much as possible. :rolleyes:

    I also can't stand the way some "foreign" waters affect teas.  Thus the purifier.

    I have a purifying system for water at home, even though I am on a well and the water is excellent - there are some minerals that do make a difference.

    I use a simple Britta filter jug and also have started experimenting with bottled mineral water for my best teas, but am not far enough along to report on that yet.

    How important is the water you use to your coffee and tea brewing? What do you use to get the best out of your beans and leaves?

  12. Bill Addison reviewed Tei An recently.

    Mr. Addison writes,

    "Courage may be the most vital element in the advancement of any city's dining scene. A chef or restaurateur needs locomotive audacity to introduce a public to truer tastes, culture-specific cooking techniques and ways of thinking about food that breach comfort zones – particularly in a finer-dining environment.

    Teiichi Sakurai earns my vote as Dallas' most courageous chef-owner. He opened his sushi bar, Teppo, when uncooked fish was still unthinkable to many Americans, and his next restaurant, Tei Tei Robata Bar, when the closest thing most local folks knew of Japanese-style grilling were chef-performers juggling sharp knives in front of counter-size griddles.

    Having sold both Teppo and Tei Tei to former employees, Mr. Sakurai has spent almost two years mastering the craft of another Japanese culinary obsession, soba, for his new venture in One Arts Plaza, Tei An.

    And unless you've spent time in Tokyo (or a few choice spots in Los Angeles and New York) slurping in soba houses, forget what you think you know about these thin buckwheat noodles."

    I have heard very good things about it from others who have been to Tei An, and understand that Sharon Hage likes it a lot. Has any one here been?

  13. .....

    I am presently traveling in New Mexico and have several teas with me.  When traveling for more than a couple of days, I bring my own water purifier (a Travel Berkey), my hot-water boiler and my tea-brewing equipment.  I'm not a fanatic, but I do like things my way...

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    Now that's what I call traveling with tea! In contrast to traveling with a few tea bags...or an infuser and a small container of a favorite tea.

  14. Here are a few tea cups.

    The white one on the left is about 150 ml in white bone china from silkroad.com. Simple, elegant and pleasant to drink from. Teas usually look their best against a white cup.

    The small (30 ml) one in front that the - erm, photographer - neglected to turn to the front - has a fish design on it. Used for gongfu.

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    More on the other three:

    Chinese tea cup from an Asian grocery

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    Tea bowl, a gift from a friend many years ago, made by an Austin potter, name forgotten. A pleasnt vessel to drink from with its monks bowl shape. I use it for drinking Sencha.

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    30 ml Yixing tea cup for gongfu from Chinese Teapot Gallery on eBay

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  15. Today I decided to start with what I refer to as "Asian Grocery Store Gold."  It is a decent Taiwanese Dong Ding Oolong that cost me a whopping $6.99 for 100 grams vacuum sealed in a metal tin.  The company who packages the tea is "Good Young Co., Ltd." out of Taipei, and is marketed as the Tradition Oolong Tea Series.  The English description on the can promised a "leisurely and carefree mood at any time."  I couldn't resist such marketing, so I bought it and feel like I finally got my money's worth out of a grocery store bought tea.  I'd post a picture, but I haven't figured that out on here yet...

    It is a typical Taiwanese ball-shaped oolong with little to no roasting.  I steeped it gongfu style in a Gaiwan, and got three decent steepings out of it.  Moderately sweet, tastes a little flat or not super fresh, but it does have that Taiwanese Oolong flavor that I love.  Not bad for $6.99.

    Has anyone else found good values like this in their local markets?

    Greg emailed me the name of the market where he found this Ding Dong Oolong. It took me a while to find it -- three aisles of various teas and herbal/medicinal teas and it was tucked back in a hard to reach corner -- but persistance paid off. Now marked $7.99, and still a bargain. I also found one lonely tin of another tea that looked promising, but have not brewed it yet.

    Greg is right. This tea is worth looking for.

    Greg Glancy recently posted ( see above) in the What tea are you drinking today? topic about finding a drinkable Dong Ding Oolong in an Asian market.

    I tried his recommendation and agree it is okay - not a high quality Dong Ding, but okay and worth trying. Given a litle tea exploration courage by Greg's find, I have picked up three other teas that looked like they might have some potential and will report on them here as I can get to them.

    Has anyone else found a tea in an Asian market that you can recommend?

  16. Good advice above.

    If you want to take it to the next level, the trick is to toss the leaves loose into the pot - no tea balls, mesh baskets, etc.  You'll be surprised at what it does to the quality & complexity of your cup.

    Of course you need to strain it off after brewing is done.  I use 2 pots, one for brewing & one for pouring, since I always brew 2-3 cups at a time.  Each pot gets warmed with near-boling, & then boiling, water before use.

    Thanks ghostrider. I agree. Letting the leaves open up fully is the best. I also sometimes do this when brewing in a large cup: one to brew loose leaves, then pour through an infuser placed in the second cup.

    Anyone have any tips for us today?

  17. Today I decided to start with what I refer to as "Asian Grocery Store Gold."  It is a decent Taiwanese Dong Ding Oolong that cost me a whopping $6.99 for 100 grams vacuum sealed in a metal tin.  The company who packages the tea is "Good Young Co., Ltd." out of Taipei, and is marketed as the Tradition Oolong Tea Series.  The English description on the can promised a "leisurely and carefree mood at any time."  I couldn't resist such marketing, so I bought it and feel like I finally got my money's worth out of a grocery store bought tea.  I'd post a picture, but I haven't figured that out on here yet...

    It is a typical Taiwanese ball-shaped oolong with little to no roasting.  I steeped it gongfu style in a Gaiwan, and got three decent steepings out of it.  Moderately sweet, tastes a little flat or not super fresh, but it does have that Taiwanese Oolong flavor that I love.  Not bad for $6.99.

    Has anyone else found good values like this in their local markets?

    Greg emailed me the name of the market where he found this Dong Ding Oolong. It took me a while to find it -- three aisles of various teas and herbal/medicinal teas and it was tucked back in a hard to reach corner -- but persistance paid off. Now marked $7.99, and still a bargain. I also found one lonely tin of another tea that looked promising, but have not brewed it yet.

    Greg is right. This tea is worth looking for.

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