Thank you for the recipe - it looks absolutely divine! I loved the Richard Bertinet DVD that came with his book "Dough" - and another with "Crust" Instead of kneading, I now throw my dough and have quite a high moisture content. Actually, now I am using my Thermomix to knead the bread - so easy with that machine... but I learned how to do it on my own very well before I turned it over to the machine. can't wait to try this recipe. I do not have a really good pumpernickel recipe, and this one looks excellent.