growing up, i was fed canned, and sometimes frozen vegetables. fresh veggies didn't seem to make their way into my world. and when they did, they were overcooked to the point where they just weren't good. i remember distinctly, when i was about 20 yrs old, sitting in a friend's room in a frat house in college...we ordered chinese food. i didn't know much about chinese food (well, even less than i do know). but, the dish was beef and broccoli. i recall having a piece of broccoli. it was firm, crunchy, and covered in a slightly sweet and slightly salty sauce. from that point on, i realized that i actually *liked* broccoli. i credit my love of most vegetables to my introduction to what was probably mediocre chinese take-out. thank god for mediocre chinese takeout.