gagit

this is for all you guys, todays issue of New York times, t syle magazineis about dining finds in Buenos Aires, featured restaurants are La Cabrero,Elles, andJangada, the place for Pacu.

have anyone eaten at Astride Gaston or Cuero de vaca

Gaucho, I dont mean to contradict you but Las Lilas is not a tourist trap but a tourist experience similar to Joes Stone Crab in Miami. Any serious visitor to Buenos Aires should make LA Lilas there first steak experience, after that try the local suggestions and compare. Price should not be the only determining difference. On my last visit, I was told that Negra Rosa was better for steak and upon my visit I found it a real tourist trap for locals. ← I think the point (which I agree with, btw) is not that Cabaña Las Lilas is expensive, but that even if you don't care about price, value for money is not worth the visit. ← Value is all relative , i could not disagree more with BTW on the bigger stage Cabana Las Lilas is less than half the price than a restaurant like the Palm in the U. S. and certainly a better value. A more important restaurant like Casa Cruz should not be missed for it certainly is a restauarant on the bigger stage than only BA for food quality and taste and for $50 a person it is one of the best values compared to the best of South Beach, Miami were I live and certainly other restaurants in London and Paris of its nature that I have visited and reviewed on my website,www.gagit.net.I find that if you only listen to remarks on local restaurants you will miss out on what a city has to offer.

I agree with you on Zagat but that is a review for fake reviewers anyone that hasnt eaten a steak at Las Lalis is missing out. expensive, noisey and popular does not make a restaurant either bad or good as far as food is concerned and Las Lilas is a must to try.

Has anyone tried restaurant Jangada that rhorens mentioned in her reply. I will be in BA next week with a friend who is a lover of fish and river fish really interests hima as a eater and a fisherman

Gaucho, I dont mean to contradict you but Las Lilas is not a tourist trap but a tourist experience similar to Joes Stone Crab in Miami. Any serious visitor to Buenos Aires should make LA Lilas there first steak experience, after that try the local suggestions and compare. Price should not be the only determining difference. On my last visit, I was told that Negra Rosa was better for steak and upon my visit I found it a real tourist trap for locals.

One night in Santiago, where do I go for dinner for the best seafood in town.

any restaurant suggestions? :

neu. I wish we had met ,we were there the first night. I was taken aback by the tastelessness of so many dishes on the menu, pine cone, etc.I would have really like to have enjoyed this experience. Your pictures are great and i am glad you enjoyed .

Only your opinion a fact unto you and you alone.See Biaugranas comments they are fact.

No alternative on the wine take it or leave it was the action.Cannelons I didnt even rember seeing on the menu and would have been my last thought in this restaurant noted for seafood or were the cannelons stuffed with some time of fruit from the sea.

The night was Monday, we had a starter each mine was oysters at about 8$ a piece good but not worth it . my wife had scallops not to bad and my friends i dont really remember . why would I have more than one main course no one else in the restaurant had more than one. A;lso , i ordered a bottle of wine 2004, they only had 2005 ,I asked if the price was different and he said of course not, I ask why not.

Biaugrana, Thx for your comment I am sure you are probably right but as I told Rogelio the quality of the meat does not compare to US aged prime which is not only better tasting but cheaper than the $78. . I am sure this is true for all of Spain.I only went for meat since I needed to chew something after eating foam and air at El Bulli . lol

Doc.I didnt have a problem with the $250 a couple at Gaig, I had a problem with what we received for this. My wife and friend ordered Sea Bass and with a 9 oclock reservation they only had one portion left, unfortunately my wife received the Sea Bass and the portion was small and the fish was overcooked and dry.My friend ordered John Dory and it to was a small portion with no character whatsoever.I ordered the squab with bomba rice which was basically expensive street food . As to charging for bread and snacks this is not acceptable especially when the snacks are nothing that we would order or enjoyed.I will post pictures of this meal and all my meals in Spain on my website:www.gagit.net, by the end of the week, please review and comment. thx gagit

He should stay with his business interests, I dont think anything can help his cooking. He can go the lab and try to find a recipe for fish or meat that can satisfy ones chewing ability than there gulping ability.He needs to visit Robuchon or Blumenthal.

Thanks to this forum I received mainly helpful tips for eating choices on my trip to Spain last week, which included a dissapointing food experience at El Bulli and further at Gaig in Barcelona.However all in all I did have some interesting and positive eating experiences which I would like to share. In Barcelona,thanks to this forum on Sunday Night, Mam I Teca, a sports bar with 6 tables and 6 stools who welcomed us even when my party increased in size from 2 to 4 at a moments notice. Yes, we only got a table for 2 but we managed unlike El Bulli who rejected this request when it should have been no issue at all .It was soccer night here and all the patrons were wearing there Barcelona Jerseys and we clapped to the Barcelona fight song on a 5 goal scoring spree. The wine was cold and with four bottles at 10 E, we really enjoyed the tapas, especially a codfish delight,ribs and beans, along with the standard peppers, codfish croquettes, and a few others that i cant remember, too much wine lol.The other Tapas restaurants I would recommend were La Clara,upscale Tapas at a reasonable price,Pinotxo Bar, at the wonderful Boquira marketplace , great local tapas, beans, squid, red shrimp. croquettes with peppers and codfish. many others washed down with cold beer and service with a smile.A so so for Bottefumiero , who need to learn how to flavor the Catalan Soup but did serve a wonderful Lobster Salad. Now for Madrid,seafood is a must in Madrid and La Trainera is the best choice of locals. A great sole was eaten by all, with starters of Red Shrimp, Crab Legs, and Oysters, and a dessert of Trout Pie , yes Trout Pie try it to believe it.We needed meat the next day and the local Meson Txstu was our stop for meat at lunch Wow, the special House Steak a aged sliced local beef, koshered salted, and served on a rock tray surface heated with the beef fat by the server.a real taste treat that I could have eaten after my 30 courses at El Bulli .We started with great Iberico ham and ended the meal with complimentary , Lemon Sorbet with Champagne and raisens and cookies. I had to cancel our hard to get reservation at Le Breoche,although I heard they specialize in the same air and foam as El Bulli.I know there are many other great places to eat in these cities but these were the ones that we enjoyed.

Doc, I know you were most helpful but Gaig was the most overpriced undervalued restaurant in the world let alone Barcelona. This is true for there new location at Hotel Cram and maybe not for there previous location. I am not only talking about the $250.00 a couple price tag but the food quality, service, and the fact that $6.00 per person bread and snack charge is not only rediculous but insulting.Please see my full review on my web page www. gagit.com for my full review in a few days.

Guys. First of all I want to thank you all for your suggestions for my trip to Spain culminated by my hard to get reservation at The Food Gods restauarant El Bulli.Second, i want to officially say that it was the most dissapointing food experience that I could experience. After eating at the real Food God , Joel Robuchon, the Mansion in Vegas and Jamin in Paris in the 80s as well as the Fat Duck, and The French Laundry , Ferran is nothing but a pretender and should be dubbed the Food Ghost. It all started well with a trip to the kitchen and a greeting by the the Ghost himself, picture will be uploaded later,a drink and snacks on the patio,the drink a cosmopolitan-mallow that really was spectacular and whetted our appetite until the snacks came , except for the olives the rest were as dull and tasteless as bulls testicles,sesame sponge cake with miso was the ulimate of the tasteless and useless snacks that were served at such a pace that we had to ask the servers to slow down.At the beginning of the snacks the Sommelier so dull I forgot his name kept on rushing over for us to order the red wine while we were were enjoying the white, what was his hurry , we were there for 5 hours. After at least 12 snacks, we were led to the dinning room for the mains, which were culminated by the noisette butter with rabbit brains, gulp and gone why bother except for the picture. We did finish our mediocre Red recommended by the sommilier for only 100 euros, and did never see him after he took the order, not even to open or to ask us how we enjoyed it. The desserts more of the same pretty pictures without substance, a lesson from Robuchon might help here,. Luckily, I brought my Partagas #4 to finish the again dull morphings and a unspectacular Spanish Muscato .Even luckier my wife brought some trail mix with M and Ms to eat something with substance for the night. Angry, not about the night I came and tasted and do now recognize Robuchon as the Food God of our time with Blumenthal a close second but over the fact that I asked for months to let another couple to join us even two days before I was asked to call and was rejected.These same friends who we spent three great nights in Barcelona with, with the help of a friend of a friend of a friend got a table at El Bulli on two nights notice,at this point I can now rename Ferrian the Food Whore

lucky booked San Pau for Tuesday nightjava script:add_smilie(%22:smile:%22)

you guys are all great thanks for advise, two weeks to go

Going to be at El Bulli mid June, I am ready for the food but Spanish Wine not my expertise.To all you past El Bulliers, what do suggest in red and white wines.

I have eaten at many steakplaces, but always come back to Cabana La Litas. the other night 500 gr. Baby Beef. $12. and a view on the water, why go anywhere else see my review of Negra Rosa on my site www.gagit.net, and you will stay with the winner Cabana. However for a great experience and beautiful food food, Casa Cruz or Suchre certainly are worth the trip.

thank you for your reply, this was one of my choices in Madrid but will now take it off my list would rather go to simple tapas restauarant then go through that experience.

thank you was considering La Broche, we are going to El Bulli on the weekend before so I think its enough of Ferria, Did you find any local tapas place, we kind of like one night of that.

lol i only can eat so much