We have a pedagogical method of having someone prepare gohan, miso shiru, and takemono once a week for several years (about ten). It takes that long to begin to understand the nuances. Jaymes, I think we would agree that full advantage of LG, or I'm sure Joy of Cooking, can only come about over many years. One of the worst things that can happen in regards to any text is to believe that you can turn to it to learn what to do. That you can always turn to that canonical text and don't have to face the actuality of the activity. Beginning texts that are not challenging can become canonical references that limit. Can. Not "must", of course. In regards to Joy, again I've found it as impermeable and puzzling as a Sears catalogue. Frocks and frys, dresses and desserts that mean nothing to me. So I am not convinced that any of my expressions of revulsion at Joy of Cooking are anything more than my own personal visceral horror at what appears to be bland, "house-wifey" executions. Jim, yes. Roast those chickens. 201? /me psst: "St. Jacques saves."