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I have to arrange a dinner for 10 family members when we are back in the U.K. next month. I've seen alot of press on Racine. Any comments on this establishment would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Stephen Bonner

Vancouver

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Posted
I love Racine, excellent service, good, unpretentious, gutsy food. Nothing special to look at.

Thank you sir...I'll book it. I have nothing but respect for your's and Jon's reviews on the U.K. scene.

Cheers,

Stephen Bonner

Vancouver

"who needs a wine list when you can get pissed on dessert" Gordon Ramsey Kitchen Nightmares 2005

MY BLOG

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Thank you sir...I'll book it. I have nothing but respect for your's and Jon's reviews on the U.K. scene.

bugger that I've got arse all idea about racine. never been there in my life. though i hear portion size is generous, which is always a generous fallback.

the other think to note is that racine is the archetypal "bistro modern" where talented chefs take a step back from haute to lower key more rustic cooking, recently aped by Galvin on baker st and Arbutus. I also think Chef Kristof is an example of this sort of offering, although it doesn't have a "name" chef.

And as probably know this is all a rip-off of a similar trend in paris a few years back, I guess started by Christian Constant at Violin d'Ingres (always found it hugely amusing michelin gave him ** for it anyway even though that was exactly what he was tryign to avoid)

l8tr

J

More Cookbooks than Sense - my new Cookbook blog!
Posted
I love Racine, excellent service, good, unpretentious, gutsy food. Nothing special to look at.

Thank you sir...I'll book it. I have nothing but respect for your's and Jon's reviews on the U.K. scene.

Cheers,

Stephen Bonner

Vancouver

Jon, over 1500 posts, and you've never been to Racine. Wow! You should swing by for dessert and meet me and the relatives :smile: when we are there. Thanks for the insight on food style etc....

Cheers,

Stephen Bonner

"who needs a wine list when you can get pissed on dessert" Gordon Ramsey Kitchen Nightmares 2005

MY BLOG

Posted

Jon, over 1500 posts, and  you've never been to Racine. Wow! You should swing by for dessert and meet me and the relatives :smile: when we are there. Thanks for the insight on food style etc....

Cheers,

Stephen Bonner

That's nothing, I've never been to St.John for anything other than a bar snack :rolleyes: (I'm going to book that now as well)

"Why would we want Children? What do they know about food?"

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Racine The Thread. Although the last post on this thread was over a year ago, from a recent look at the menu things are still pretty much the same now as they were then. I did note a definate rise in prices but thats to be expected I suppose. Racine used to be a real bargain but it now priced more in accordance with other restaurants at this level. I must go back!
Posted (edited)

Jon, over 1500 posts, and  you've never been to Racine. Wow! You should swing by for dessert and meet me and the relatives :smile: when we are there. Thanks for the insight on food style etc....

Cheers,

Stephen Bonner

That's nothing, I've never been to St.John for anything other than a bar snack :rolleyes: (I'm going to book that now as well)

Andy, thank you for the link. I did a search but it did not come up and yes I respect you and your 6000+ posts as well. Sorry we did not meet when you visited Vancouver.

Stephen

Edited by SBonner (log)

"who needs a wine list when you can get pissed on dessert" Gordon Ramsey Kitchen Nightmares 2005

MY BLOG

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That's nothing, I've never been to St.John for anything other than a bar snack :rolleyes: (I'm going to book that now as well)

Matthew I'm gobsmacked! :shock:

I guess if u spent less time hanging out at Arbutus and Bonds you might be able to get out a bit more... :wink:

Stephen: Ta! Yes pop me a pm when ur in town. Probably need to get some recs for good chinese in vancouver off you. I have a shocking void space in my knowledge on that front...

l8tr

J

More Cookbooks than Sense - my new Cookbook blog!
Posted

I've been to Bonds a grand total of...twice. Arbutus a little more but I bet not as many times as some people on this board. :laugh:

It is shocking but on the whole the type of cuisine at St John, doesn't necessarily interest me. However, I will try and rectify this shortly provided you get yourself along to Racine.

"Why would we want Children? What do they know about food?"

Posted
That's nothing, I've never been to St.John for anything other than a bar snack :rolleyes: (I'm going to book that now as well)

Is there an emoticon for jaw-dropping amazement?

I'm going to check back in a week. If you haven't booked, I'm going to march you over there myself...

...and buy you chitterlins. :biggrin:

Tim Hayward

"Anyone who wants to write about food would do well to stay away from

similes and metaphors, because if you're not careful, expressions like

'light as a feather' make their way into your sentences and then where are you?"

Nora Ephron

Posted (edited)

I really think I'm missing the point of St John. :rolleyes: I'm not a huge offal fan and I think I'd probably get more pleasure out of cooking any of today's main courses myself using some top notch meat or fish than spending £22.50 on a Venison chop with red cabbage. :hmmm:

Edited by Matthew Grant (log)

"Why would we want Children? What do they know about food?"

Posted

I know what you meant Matthew - whilst I do like offal, such a limited choice at those prices kind of sends me into the thought process of "why bother, I can make the dishes from the menu that I like for myself". Personally, with the exception of certain dishes, I prefer to have offal as an accompanyment to a dish rather than as a dish in itself, so whilst I do love roasted bone marrow on toast, I would prefer to have this as an accompanyment to a nice chateaubriand.

If a man makes a statement and a woman is not around to witness it, is he still wrong?

Posted
I really think I'm missing the point of St John.  :rolleyes: I'm not a huge offal fan and I think I'd probably get more pleasure out of cooking any of today's main courses myself using some top notch meat or fish than spending £22.50 on a Venison chop with red cabbage. :hmmm:

If you're not after the offal I sort of agree - St John (in my experience anyhow) certainly gives you some of the best technical execution in London, but the food is very "does what it says on the label" simple.

The same argument, however, could probably be applied to many Italien places e.g. River Cafe or Locanda Locatelli where if it says "piece of meat on a plate" on the menu description that is precisely what you get...

I guess the simplicity is part of the beauty of it. How would you describe it? "post modernist dining"? "nouvelle nouvelle cuisine"? "retro nouvelle cuisine" even...

l8tr

J

More Cookbooks than Sense - my new Cookbook blog!
Posted
The same argument, however, could probably be applied to many Italien places e.g. River Cafe or Locanda Locatelli

reason for going to LL is all the starters though, isn't it? freshly stuffed pasta is lots of effort, and imagine how long it takes giorgio to de-pod and individually peel all those broad beans.

then there's being able to have freshly shaved white truffle without spending a ton on a lump of it...

Ian

I go to bakeries, all day long.

There's a lack of sweetness in my life...

Posted

Ooh, his truffle tasting menu last year was divine. Anyone know of any places that will be doing one this year - I would guess that Locatelli will, and Le Vacherin are having a one-off truffle dinner event. Andy, and insight?

If a man makes a statement and a woman is not around to witness it, is he still wrong?

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