the reidel restaurant series are EXACTLY the same shape as the Vinum series,but they are not lead crystal. the stems are not short as mark notes and their balance is MUCH better. i'm the wholesaler in MD,DC and DE. and i'm sending some samples to mark. we have over 50 restaurants in this region using the new series and they LOVE them. Riedel is releasing next month a "magnum" glass in the restaurant series that will be sold by wholesales at less thsn $3.50/stem!