Target carries them, but at the same price as Zabar's. Costco, nope. I don't like aluminum, as it doesn't brown the bottom very well. My Pyrex pies cost more because they're bigger, and I will offer a choice of the molds I currently use, and the Pyrex. The Pyrex is a much more attractive pie, and will come with a choice. Leave a refundable deposit for the plate, or tack on the extra cost. Now, if I can find the plates cheap, even better to keep costs lower. I will call around though. Thanks.