That could well be, the last time I did it was 15-18 years ago, when I wasn't yet paying attention to silly details like what you put in food :) But that does sound like a good/better idea, I can imagine half a dozen ways to kill a yeast dough, with biscuit there is a lot less chance of that happening. Maybe you should give the younger ones the biscuit recipe and the older ones the yeast one. Just for fun, of course. And then make it a contest: who makes the better bread As for the sealed hamburgers, et.al., I have even seen varieties that you don't even have to keep in the fridge. Most supermarkets do that anyway, to make them seem 'fresh'. Just check the packaging, that will usually say 'store at 20C' or something. - Pascal