paul, i think you had a little too *much* of my wine, as you're making up stories!! 4 inches across and 2 high? oh man, if you really think so then you're the only one who's 2 high. and they weren't browned on the bottom (well, not the ones with all of the soup at least). and not to make myself sound any more clumsy that i already do (or am), but i wasn't using chopsticks (which might have made dropping your dumpling excusable). it was actually in a spoon. i really don't know how it got away. regardless, nice save. as always, a pleasure.