I haven't tried a Rouge burger yet, but so far my favorite is the Black Angus Burger for $4.95 (add $1 for fries) at Yummy Cafe & Bakery at the junction of Township Line (Rte 1) and Burmont Rd, just before the Pilgrim Gardens Shopping Center, across from St. Dot's. It's in a small strip shopping center (there's a Pat's Pizzeria next door). I order it medium rare and Joe the cook nails it perfectly every time, with the pink everywhere it's supposed to be. Deep beef flavor followed the pink. I get a side of mayonnaise and it's giddy city. The fries were decent, too. I've eaten it many times, and I keep meaning to try their Reuben, but there never seems to be enough room. I realize it's not in Philly, but maybe on your way to Longwood Gardens you might pass by there. Don't go Sunday or Monday, though, and if you do go - get there by 2:30 because the grill closes at 2:45. Holly, I'd rate this one 5 deep grease stains for the burger alone. Not that I could tell you much about the rest of the menu. edit addition - the patty is 8oz and is a little over an inch thick