Nathan

on the high end for this category, yes. but in NY that's not really considered expensive either.

keep em coming! (the specific genesis for this thread was a call for Italian restaurants at the same price point as Crispo that are as good or better)

I've noticed that some Perry Street dishes are appearing at Jo-Jo. that's a good thing.

by "cheap" I mean places with apps hovering around $10 (often with snacks for less) and entrees and primi in the $12-25 range. NY is blessed with a plethora of them: Lupa Otto (if you order right...and with the best wine list of any of them) Dell'Amina Barbuto Aurora SoHo Il Posto Accanto Bellavitae Crispo. the enoteca at Del Posto on this list, I'd take Lupa first. my guess is that Barcaro belongs here but I haven't been.

I haven't been. (edit: Crispo is fine but there's better in the same milieu at the same price point. and it's such an annoying B&T zoo on the weekend)

generally speaking, the majority opinion on Chowhound is always wrong.

Bruni pretty much says that the difference between A&D and GR is mainly one of price. Alan Richman has a pretty similar take as well (though he seems to think that the cooking is more robust at A&D).

God bless him

I had the free range iberico last year while traveling...darn good. can't even imagine what the bellota will taste like.

that new mackerel dish with the pear is darn good.... heh..this couple sat down next to us last night. five minutes later after perusing the menu: "sorry, I guess we're going to go. we're vegetarians and this menu seems kind of meat heavy".....

yeah...I've heard good things...this is another data point. it's getting my rear up there...... of course, this was also the place which allowed us to discover that Restaurant Girl thought ceviche was a new trend.

mea culpa: he calls it "Progressive American" not "New American" http://www.charliepalmer.com/cp/about.html

A french restaurant lets you bring American wines in??? I think the deal with Quality Meats is that it can't be a bottle from their list. ← 1. Palmer always markets his food as "New American"...include at Aureole. 2. yeah, I think the simple rule of courtesy with corkage or no corkage is that the wine better not be on the restaurant list (and it better not be Yellowtail either). and giving the sommelier a taste of course.

if you're looking for a no corkage restaurant....well, the famous Monday night one at Montrachet is no more (the restaurant closed). AOC Bedford charges no corkage on Sunday and Monday nights. I think Aureole has no corkage if you bring American wines...but I'd call to make sure. certainly, lots of places in Chinatown don't charge corkage.

I'm confused. Prune is not BYO. in fact, it has a wine list: http://www.prunerestaurant.com/ Ivo & LuLu is BYO...but it isn't very good. (your first visit it seems remarkable for what it is. on your second visit (and everyone after that) you realize that everything tastes the same....it is charming and cheap though (the real reason people like it). the most popular BYO in Manhattan is Tartine. the food is nothing special (though competent) but it has a fun dinner party atmosphere. otherwise, most BYO's in Manhattan (and I assume Brooklyn) are temporary...waiting for their license.

I usually agree with Meehan but in this case I agree with you and Adams. the space is small, but warm and friendly.

I haven't noticed any oversalting at all. I've had dishes that were aggressively seasoned...but usually it was pretty clear that the dish was intended to be that way. I simply don't see any sort of oversalting trend in NY restaurants...

yup...I've been playing with variations on this at home for a while. both with Peat Monster and Lagavulin 16...I've actually come to think that orange bitters work best...

or Resto!

yeah, I've been meaning to mention this today. I was in last night and the extensive new list is simply phenomenal....

I thought I Trulli was ok...overpriced for what it is. I haven't been to Via Emilia but I know people who say it's quite good for what it is...definitely less ambitious and at a lowerprice point than I Trulli.

btw, those entree sizes are mammoth... and ordering the maitake mushrooms on top of them turned out to be complete overkill...

I think Paul was there. didn't see Marco.

Had an excellent meal here last night. snapper crudo was pretty good, big eye tuna with capers and pickled mushrooms was even better. skate entree was one of the better ones I've had. pork three-ways was almost superb...the only downside being the overcooking of the loin slices. there was practically no discernable pink at all....making for a bit of a dry result. nice wine list...that wine bar they're opening should be a lot of fun.

It's a super-cheap midtown, mainly takeout and delivery place. food's not good but usually edible.