I will take your advice and go with the Madagacar. I know the beans would be put to better use in a custard, etc., but the reality is that I don't make custard, ice cream, flan (too woggly) very often, and I'm curious about Herme's buttercream. I'll let you know how it turns out. I am making dessert for a diffrent dinner party (only 6 pepole) in two weeks that I'm sure requires some portion of a bean. It's Herme's rice krispie treat, or something like that, that as I recall involves making a creme anglaise rice pudding molded between ladyfinger layers and surrounded by a ladyfinger band. It's not that I'm an Herme nut, but I do like to make at least one, kind of odd, pain-in-the-ass dessert a year, and he is good for that. I usually do this on NYE but too many people are coming this year (and my wife has complained that she never gets a birthday cake from me). The pudding has lemon and rice krispie candy bar pieces in it, and a chocolate sauce on top. A strange combo no doubt, but intriguing. So, any thoughts on that dessert: Tahitian or Madagascar(ian)? I want to use one of those Tahitian badboys. It looks like a sweet, fat spleef.