Thanks for taking the time to elaborate! I didn't think about the egg to meat ratio. Makes sense. I haven't learned to add photos here or I would share our burgers. Coarse ground once, 4oz. patties, which started at 6 then went to 5 and we're happy with 4. On a toasted English muffin. We're 'older' folks so find we don't need/want nearly as much meat to satisfy the craving. Again, thanks.