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Adam Devermann

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  1. Yes, I was in Shanghai studying and completing an internship (in an unrelated field) before I started working in Shanghai. I am working in the French Concession/ Jing an border, on Ju Lu road. The majority of the construction has and is still taking place in other areas of Shanghai, I'm in the middle of downtown so there isn't as much going on here as other areas. That being said, I can seem them building the new Shangri-La hotel from my apartment window. And you are right, the amount of construction and the pace at which it gets completed still boggles my mind. Regarding language, you are correct in assuming that you don't need to be fluent, or in fact anywhere near it to work in a Western oriented hotel/restaurant. In fact, my Mandarin is still very poor. But I manage. There is also a large expat community in Shanghai which can help you to ease your way in. I am assuming the same for Beijing, though most likely on a smaller scale, but I'm not very familiar with up North. When it gets closer to time to job hunt out this way, let me know, hopefully I can be of some assistance.
  2. Both J.Stevens & pastrygirl are correct and make some good points. I have been working almost two years in Shanghai, China at this point. Starting out first studying the language and then picking up a job from there (which is not necessarily the route you want to take). I would imagine that Western style/run hotels is one of the better routes to go, typically offering a couple year contracts for Western management/leadership positions (as mentioned by pastrygirl). They will take care of any Visa requirements that you need. For reference I am currently working at a small/mid sized restaurant and bar as a bar manager which also took care of my Visa requirements. There are smaller Companies similar to the one I work for that will also do the same. That being said, they often higher Western talent already in Country (often cheaper and quicker). You are required to have a working Visa, no buts about it. And it seems what J.Stevens mentions about Japan is similar to China, anything other than a tourist Visa is not easy to come by, and a working Visa is a bit tougher still. There is a fair amount of paperwork that needs to be done, health checks, some more forms, and you must fly out of the Country (Hong Kong is okay) to register for a working Visa, which must be renewed every year, regardless of how long you have been here (my bosses have both been in China for over a decade). However after the initial go around, you don't have to leave the Country to renew, you can have someone stand in for you and renew in Shanghai. Also, those local places you mention, at least in China, are not interested in hiring foreigners. Labor is cheap and plentiful for people who have grown up making their local fair all of their life. Without a doubt they don't want a foreigner telling them how to cook their cultural heritage. On another side note, the World Expo is currently going on right now in Shanghai, and there has been an influx of foreign chefs that have been hired to run a number of the Pavilions food programs. There have also been a number of other locally based Western chefs that have been sucked over to run restaurants in and around the site which has put a hole in the talent for everyone not related to Expo. So there may be some people currently looking to fill positions quickly. There are a number of new hotel openings coinciding with Expo as well, to reiterate, that is a good place to start looking. With the growth that this city sees year after year, there are always other options popping up as well.
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