Just a random conclusion I've reached. I have been adding a little xanthum gum (1/4 to 1/2 tsp) per 1 cup of liquid. It has worked quite well. Too much xanthum will make the liquid too "gummy." But, if you can get the right amount you can technically make anything "orb" - using the alginate and CaCl2 bath. I think the xanthum helps thicken any juice or liquid which, in turn, assists the alginate in the whole process.??.. Perhaps this will help some of you, perhaps it won't. P.S. did you see wylie on Iron Chef. He killed it. Though he didn't prevail.