BUx, my apologies!!! It is Plaza Mayor im talking about, sorry, so many squares in MAdrid and Barcelona, but they are completley opposite in popularity so easily confusing. Yes, i meant the caves under the square, the small themed ones, I see you know them well. Do you know the restaurant, cant remember the name now ... walking down form the Plaza on the left hand side after the caves??? HIGHLY recomendable restaurant, usually fully booked a week in advance but my mind has gone completley blank. You walk in a small door, windows out to the side street, its on the walking street before coming down to normal streets with cars etc, sorry, will work my brain or ask my sister, but for anyone going to Madrid centre, this is higly recomendable... unless its almost been menitoned prior to my joining!!! Typical for its COCHINILLO and CARNE A LA BRASA etc, Grilled meats!!!