My first post to eGullet!! I'm so thrilled to be reading about these fabulous burgers. The agency I work at part time is having it's Fourth of July BBQ today, and I am dreading the fare. They are serving brats (I'm from NY, and just haven't gotten used to these) and "burgers." The "burgers" came in a box, frozen, and are called Value Burgers. They contain a lot of ingredients that aren't meat, and that should never be served with meat. I plan on eating the Tomato, Corn and Avocado salad that I brought in, and maybe some fruit. And I'll be thinking enviously of the great burgers you all are describing!! My perfect burger - medium rare with bleu cheese, guacamole and bacon on an onion roll.