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BertieWooster

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  1. Okay, booked for Sunday lunch during a five day trip round the Cotswolds and surrounding, was going for the fat Duck, but as we were eating at LCS on the Tuesday night, went for the more traditional pub stuff.

    Late by fifteen minutes due to the impossibility of parking in Bray (not that we weren't warned, so no fault of anyone). Slight confusion over table booking, as they'd got the wrong name, sorted quickly. Drinks order given downstairs. restaurant upstairs 2/3 full, including table of eight who'd got in there just before us. However, though orders were taken after them, the one nice thing was jumping us ahead in the serving stakes which was cool and sensible.

    From the current menu at the website.

    Ten minutes later still no order taken, or, indeed, anyone approahced us. Drinks arrived after about fifteen, then came to take order. We could see into the area where the servers were, it was clear that the two very nice lasses employed weren't allowed to take orders, which left it all on one bloke. I had smoked salmon, can't for the life remember what Mrs W. had. Both were fine, salmon as good but straight-forward as you'd expect (missed others' addition of scrambled egg!). Consulted over Mrs W's dairy problems, they said they'd get back to us, and no one did--chased, things fine, but would have been nice to have been told.

    It being Sunday, Mrs. W. had the roast lamb special for mains, I had the bream plus some of the famous 'only contribution to British cooking' triple-cooked chips. Arrived after twenty minutes. No chips. No chips. No chips. Lamb WAS superb, excellent slices, rare, juicy everything meat-eaters like. Roasties were numbered just two, veg with it was tepid at best. No chips. The bream was beautifully cooked but, well, boring in the extreme (okay my fault, it did what it'd said on the menu). though the fennel was great.

    The chips arrived about 2/3 of the way through. okay. Ordered second round of drinks about half way through, which never arrived.

    No dessert, ten minutes trying to attract someone's attention to get the bill. The bill includes extra drinks (in no way ironically not even the drinks we'd ordered and not got). New bill. Home.

    Possibly because we'd been so looking forward to it I accept, but distinctly less than it could or should have been, and, indeed, less than many other pubs that do food. Uninventive, the delays didn't help. Etc. Maybe we should have gone for the puddings and hotpots, but Sunday lunch is roast time innit?

  2. Ate there at the weekend for the first time, so have nothing to compare it with. But distinctly underwhelmed. Dodgy slow service, wrong orders, wrong bill, food v.v. boring in one case, cold veg, etc etc.

    Not within spitting distance of good country food-pubs (Star, Angel at Hetton, Five Mile House, Blacksmiths)

  3. Why, oh why don't some of these incredibly rich property developers (that means you Allied London at Spinningfields!) just throw a bit of money around to create a great site at a favourable rate for a local, proven chef like Paul Kitching or Nigel Howarth to try and bring a star to the city.

    Its a lot less likely to happen now, of course. Ingall and co. didn't get to be stinkingly rich by throwing money at things that don't work.

    Maybe in the new casino site?

  4. Hmm, but the historical rule of thumb of 'the north' is from the Mersey to the Humber. Which could leave Cheshire (south of the Mersey) in the midlands.

    The actual boundary between Northumbria as was and Mercia is at Dore in western Sheffield/Derbyshire, anywhere south of that must be part of the midlands.

    It's when they start defining areas by East and West I get confused. West Yorkshire is quite easily defined as Eastern England if one takes the Penines as the divide. North Yorkshire heads further west than West Yorkshire, and (of course) really includes much of eastern Lancashire.

    And then what happens when the Earth's magnetic flow reverses once more?

  5. (but wasn't the Good Pub Guide award from before you took over?)

    the dining pub of the year award was awarded about a week before we took over, this years good food guide entry though is all our own work :smile: and we have maintained our entries in the good pub guide, alistair sawdays & michelin red book & pubs and inns.

    and all well deserved of course

  6. Just to add a real life situation to give some weight to the discussion we pay all the front of house staff £30 per shift for an 8 hour shift and the TOTAL service charge from the evening is divided by the FoH staff. 

    How do you get past the minimum wage on that one? That's £4 an hour officially, as potentially you could have no bookings on a shift

    Since we opened the average wage for FoH staff is working out around £300-350 per week which is equivalent of £17k a year.

    Indeed, but surely you're breaking the law, and any employee who left in high or low dudgeon would have a very good tribunal case. Sorry, I'm probably missing something here...

    From what i can tell this is a fairly common setup in restaurants - when we were setting up i checked with a number of good, reputable places that will remain nameless who all operated the same system

    Course, in NYC and the US generally many places don't pay the waiting staff at all, bt the tipping culture is greater there (and many of the staff are non-green carded immigrants from weird places like England)

    The wage bill for a restaurant aims to be around 35% of sales, food is 30% and overheads anwhere between 10-20% - leaving 15-25% profit

    We aim at about 25% of sales for wages, but its a massively different operation of course.

    How far up does the sharing of tips go? Presumably the Chef is on profit-related bonus rather than tip-sharing...

  7. If they do ban it i can't quite see that  it is going to make much difference, york not exactly being a hot bed of foie gras consumption!

    I don't know if we have any lawyers on here, but is it actually legal for them to ban it?

    My understanding is that, apart from any temporary bans on "unsafe" products (such as beef when BSE is a worry), it is not legal for any individual EU country to ban a product that can legally be sold elsewhere in the EU. In other words, neither York nor the UK can ban Foie Gras while it is legal to be sold in a country such as France.

    No, that's the point I made in the original post. While it appears that he's calling for banning, he obviously can't ban it (and neither can the city council as a whole) so is calling for restaurants not to stock it.

    Which will be about as much use in stopping people eating it as a storm in a chocolate teapot

  8. But surely if the staff don't care, then it isn't the sort of place that should get within a whisker of a Michelin as the atmosphere and service standards would presumably be lower?

    Though I suppose one can be professional without being passionate. But I always feel the passion levels for the staff are what really marks out a v.good place from just a good, professional, one.

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