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hi there
my friend is planning a birhtday party and wanted to have a hog roast
thing is there are so many on goolg eits hard to tell which ones are good.
does anyone have any recommendations?
or are you a hog roast caterer yourself ?
If so please drop me a line thanks
regards
sam
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I agree with prawncracker on getting the best piece of pork you can find.
I've tried various sources for pork belly and the result does vary greatly from place to place.
Thing is even if you get the best piece you can find you might still not have the edge as the restaurant will have specialist food suppliers.
If you think the marinade is too dry just double up on the recipe and add some oil.
Cut thinner slices on the meat side to allow the marinade to get in deeper to the meat.
Marinade for 2 days.
You could jaccard the meat or maybe even use a vaccum marinator.
just depends how desperate you are to win?
what's the prize? apart from bragging rights?
Some extra tips to help you along
get the flattest piece of pork belly you can find that has a good layer of fat.
Really puncture the skin lots! spend 5-10 minute hammering the skin with a spiked hammer then use a knife to score the meat.
Use crush sea salt not table salt for the skin and really rub it in.
Use 40% vodka ot even 50% if you can find it.
Lye is brilliant for the crackling but not so good for the taste of it.
Take the pork belly out of the fridge 2 hours before cooking to come up to room temperature.
Definitely pre heat the oven to as hot as possible.
buy a piece of pork belly and cook a practise piece and eat it
Add some msg into the marinade
you know your local will!and good luck!
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I am trying to find a supply of fresh yuzu in the UK. Does anyone know of anyone who imports and or stocks it?
Thanks.
Hi Alex
The only places i have seen fresh yuzu in london is in Atari-ya
drop these guys a line http://www.atariya.co.uk/.
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hey prawn crackers
good to see someone is getting consistent results
just for reference how much salt are you rubbing into the skin?
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Hi saladfingers
could you give more detail on how you are preparing the pork?
If you can please post some photos of what you are doing and we can try to figure out how to get better results.
please have a read of my recipe in recipe gullet
http://recipes.egullet.org/recipes/r2100.html
Are you not getting any crackling forming at all?
Who's recipe are you following? as the 150C at 3 hours sounds like a european recipe for roast pork rather then chinese version.
Wwhen you lay the pork belly on top of your onions make sure that there pork is lying curved over the onions like a hump and that there is no dip in the middle of the belly where the fat can pool as this will prevent the crackling from forming.
Also once the pork belly is in the oven do not open the oven door until you need to grill the skin.
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Hi there
I am going to be in Verona for three days from the 1st May and was hoping to find some restaurant recommendations for dinner and lunch.
I had a dig around and found these three that look pretty good
http://www.ristorantearche.com
http://www.ristorantecalanova.com/eng/menu.htm
any comments on these three?
I am looking for good italian cooking but am pretty open to styles and price ranges.
Any recommendations on places to eat or things to do would be greatly appreciated.
thanks in advances
sam
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regarding the Roast Pork Belly...I bought some yesterday at a local store and they provided a dipping sauce which my wife really likes. it is a bit sweet and may contain soy sauce. does anyone have any idea what this sauce might be and what the ingredients are?
or could be yellow bean sauce cooked with a load of sugar
thenks, more likely soy with hoisin or some other sauce...it is very liquid just like soy sauce
arrr...
That could be soya sauce, water, sugar, sesame oil and probably some msg in there. They use that on the duck rice.
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regarding the Roast Pork Belly...I bought some yesterday at a local store and they provided a dipping sauce which my wife really likes. it is a bit sweet and may contain soy sauce. does anyone have any idea what this sauce might be and what the ingredients are?
or could be yellow bean sauce cooked with a load of sugar
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yep you can make it using a plastic container and the freezer but like dellis453 said you will have to go back and stick it in a food processor or you a hand blender to incorporate some air.
But as you would expect even then the texture will not be as good as shop bought ice cream.
You can get the ice cream makers that have the pre frozen bowl for under £30. The results are pretty good but you need to freeze the bowl the night before and you will only be abel to make one batch before you have to refreeze teh bowl overnight.
Or you can buy a ice cream machine with inbuilt refrigeration,. These usually cost at least £200 but I found this one at M&S
£99 and has a 2 year guarantee.
It's quiet, easy to clean and make very good ice cream.
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has anyone tried boiling it, then deep frying it? i know the rule of thumb is to dry the skin but the if the skin is really wet, i'd think that the moisture would turn to steam, making the skin bubble during the frying. the crispness probably wouldn't last as long and the texture wouldn't quite be the same but it sounds like it'd still give good results.
edit: i'll try it and post the results
what you described are pork scratchings. Piece of pork rind boiled and deep fried to crispy.
Scratching are nice give it a try you should like what you get
but it is quite a different product to the chinese roast pork you would get find in a chinatown.
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thanks nathan
i'll pull one at 8hrs and see how it is doing, i will rebag and continue if required.
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Hi
I'm cooking a xmas dinner party for 20 this weekend.
Amongst other things I have a 5kg sirloin roast that i am planning to SV.
Here's what i am planning to do.
1. Jaccard the whole roast.
2. Cut it into 2 seperate 2.5kg roasts. (just to make it easier to handle)
3. Sear the exterior on top of the stove in a baking tray.
4. Then bag both seperately.
5. Into a water bath 12 hours at 55C.
6. After the cooking time, take it out and rest for 45 minutes before a final sear with a blowtorch.
Does this look ok ? any pointers?
Do you think 12 hours is adequate for the roast to tenderise a bit? or is it even too long?
I plan to add a marinade to one of the roasts 1Tbs of soya sauce, balsamic vinegar, mustard, pepper and a sprig of thyme and rosemary.
The other i might just simply season unless anyone has a recommendation/suggestions?
thanks all
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I remember reading a post where someone said they were doing SV stock and the results were good, been trying to look for the post but I can't seem to find it.
To be honest I don't think SV stock would require temperature precision just more the fact the ingredients are all bagged.
The benefits I could see from SV stock is the possibility that the flavours of the bones and aromatics will be stronger and that there is less water required in the bag and so less need for reduction.
Might give it a try over xmas out of curiosity.
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I think I remeber a post mentioning someone making stock SV by bagging all the bones and Mirepoix and sticking it into a water bath for a few hours.
Has anyone tried this? as i'm wondering if its worth doing?
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hi there. i think yr in london and may be best to take a turkey upwith you. thats what i'm doing buying from a farm in somerset who sell at hammersmith on a thurs, and driving to glasgow on the 23rd with it in the back.
there is a butcher on clarence drive in hyndland which is good but i forget the name. also one in anniesland. with a bit of organisation this might be yr best bet
http://www.aberfoylebutcher.co.uk/game.htm
or contact mccallums fishmongers in glasgow for a turkey
thanks is100
yeah i did think about buying one in london and taking it up with me.
But just doesn't seem to makes sense, surely there are good butchers in glasgow?
yep i will give those contact a try
thanks
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Hi there
can anyone recommend a good butcher in the glasgow area?
I am catering for friends party in the area and need to get hold of a Bronze turkey and a sirloin roast just that I am unfamilair with Glasgow and my frined only shops in supermarkets.
thanks
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I'm probably asking something on par with turning water to wine
but anyone know how I can turn SV turkey into something that would actually be nice?
I made two turkey ballotines yesterday one with a leek, sage and onion stuffing and one with a porcini, mushroom stuffing.
Bagged them and cooked them at 64C for 5 hours.
The flavours were nice but i really didn't like the texture.
Everytime I have had turkey it has had that crumbly texture anyone know what temperature or what i can do to stop it being like that or at least make it a little bit smoother.
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could iit be possible to use a rolling pin and to roll out the skin and reduce the thickness?
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I am. Making 2 turkey ballotines out of 1 whole bronze turkey.
I'm going roast off one of the ballotines as normal in an oven
and the other i'm going to SV.
I plan to Jaccard and butterfly the breasts.
Make a stuffing out of diced brown meat with sage and onion and then form
the roll.
Vacseal it and SV at 65C for 4 hours.
The turkey skin I'm going to made into skin crackers.
how are you planning to make your?
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yep your balltoine looks exactly like the one I make it has the creases from the bag during vaccuming
I wonder if there is a to get rid of the creases?
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hi
no didn't use any binding chemicals.
Is it ok to take the cling film up to 60C?
Also did it take long to pan crisp the skin afterwards?
did you find any problems crisping the chicken skin after the waterbath?
The one i made I butterflied the breast and made a roll.
The stuffing was minced chicken thigh with porcini and tarragon.
I made the skin seperately as roasted skin crackers.
This sounds a little unsafe in my mind but could you SV the ballotine and after it is cooked wrap it in the uncooked chicken skin and then roast it off?
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hi
has anyone made a SV chicken or turkey ballotine ?
I made one last week and it was good but lacked the punch of a roasted one.
After the water bath would it be worth roasting it off a bit?
Also anyone know how i can keep the ballotine's round shape in the bag?
As once i put the roll into the foodsaver bag and vacseal it, the roll gets that squished geometric look and kind of looks unnatural when served.
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yep there's no stirring action either.
But I am thinking you could bag your food, bring it up to temperature in a stockpot then transfer the bag into the hotbox to finish off.
Maybe even put a gastronorm pan with lid inside filled with water?
I might buy this and see if it can be used as a cheapo SV cooker.
So you are thinking of using this for situations where you bring something to temperature (which you would do in a conventional stovetop water bath) and hold it there for a long time (which you would do in the hot box)? Seems like taking the long way around to get there... for the around the same money you could get a cheap hotplate and a PID controller and achieve the same thing. Still not exactly a recirculating water bath, which may be an issue for long-term cooking. I'd stick with keeping my eyes on eBay - I got a lab-style circulating heater for $20 US plus another $50 in parts.
yep there are cheaper setups available but this is quite elegant and there is one thing that really interests me about this piece of kit, it can run off a 12v car socket.
I am thinking this could be good as a mobile SV catering kit, pair this with a blowtorch and I'm thinking SV food on the move
imagine a picnic where you cut open a perfectly juicy steak and then blowtorch it before carving it, whilst you are out in the middle of the wilderness
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yep there's no stirring action either.
But I am thinking you could bag your food, bring it up to temperature in a stockpot then transfer the bag into the hotbox to finish off.
Maybe even put a gastronorm pan with lid inside filled with water?
I might buy this and see if it can be used as a cheapo SV cooker.
Siu Yook (Roast Pork Belly)
in China: Cooking & Baking
Posted · Edited by origamicrane (log)
hi howard
I'm not 100% sure of what the scientific explanation for how the vodka effects the crackling
but i am guessing that it is a combination of alkali corrosive attack on the skin and dehydrating properties of the alcohol.
If you look back to my cooking experiment
cooking experiment
you can see the effect of altering the PH
generally the more acidic or alkaline it is the better the results.
But just as a warning we have noticed that using too much of a strong alkali might have two possible detrimental effects
1. it may cause the crackling to lift off the meat
2. it may cause the fat to saponify which will leave an undesirable flavour
but yes i believe that vodka might increase the malliard reaction in this case as in the experiment, i did notice that the vodka and lye piece were blistering much earlier then the others.
I've never seen the need to brine pork belly for roast pork.
I think brining pork is only of use if your piece is particularly lean or you want to add some additional flavour to the meat.
but you can always give it a try and see what happens