Jura Capresso F7 or Bosch B30

[Honkman]

I am looking to buy a super-automatic espresso machine for home use and have narrowed down my search to either the Jura Capresso F7 or the BOSCH Benvenuto B30 so far. This will be my first espresso machine and I would appreciate any feedback about these two machines or preference for one over the other. I am also open to recommendations for other machines (but only super-automatics). Thanks a lot for your help in advance !

[phaelon56]

I wasn't aware that Bosch sold or distributed espresso machines in the US. Superauto machines are so much more complex than conventional espresso machines that I's first look at availability of parts and service before going on to assess other differences. That said... the F7 seems to get pretty good press. What's the price range of this machine? Depending on price you may also consider the smallest Schaerer - they make a good machine and the bigger ones are used both by Peet's and Dunkin Donuts - a good testimony to their ruggedness.

[Honkman]

I wasn't aware that Bosch sold or distributed espresso machines in the US. Superauto machines are so much more complex than conventional espresso machines that I's first look at availability of parts and service before going on to assess other differences. That said...  the F7 seems to get pretty good press.  What's the price range of this machine?  Depending on price you may also consider the smallest Schaerer - they make a good machine and the bigger ones are used both by Peet's and Dunkin Donuts - a good testimony to their ruggedness.

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Thanks for your fast reply to my post. The Bosch machine is available in the US since beginning of 2005, and it is manufactured for Bosch by Jura. What I like about the Bosch machine is that it has two heating elements (F7 has only one) and that it has an active cup warmer (F7 is passive). I don't know how the Bosch service would be, Jura might be better in the US. Both machines come with a 1-year warranty and cost about $1300 - I want to spend between $1000-1500. I'll check out the Schaerer.

[jackal10]

We have a Jura Capressa at the office, and it does good work.

Needs regular maintenance and de-calcifying.

[phaelon56]

I was thinking of a different Jura - a much pricier one. The cheapest Schaerer would likely be $3500 to $5500. If going the superauto route definitely buy the best one you can possibly afford as you are paying a premium for the convenience feature. At the $1500 price point you won't get fantastic espresso but with good fresh beans, a bit of tweaking and a conscientious maintenance schedule you should be able to get espresso better than what many independent cafes and most chains offer.