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Loris

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  1. The idea for Black Box Wines arose out of his experiences in Europe, Sproule says. When he was there, he said, he found many well-made wines sold in boxes.

    Where? :biggrin:

    I think bag in box wines are often similar to coloured water. Does anyone know a good European bag in box wine?

  2. I think that RP and WS scoring system is very useful; tasting reviews describing the wine, color, bouquet and taste may help the wine lover to look for a particular wine or recognize perfumes and fruits.

    On the other side I do not like the the so scientific number-scoring, I think that it is impossible for everyone to state that a wine scoring 89 is better than the one scoring 88. Even a 99 points wine can be as good as a 80 points wine if someone like it. In some ways scoring wines is like wandering up and down the National Gallery giving marks to all the different paintings.

    Taste is very subjective and RP and WS are not my bible, but only interesting pieces of paper to read. :cool:

  3. Many wineries here in Italy use Styrofoam packs to ship samples abroad. If you buy wine directly from the producers, you may ask them to sell you a few packs, so you do not have to carry them from home.

  4. I agree with Craig, there are a lot of "imitations" but counteirfection is another thing.

    This also means that Italian products are the best :wub:

    Beverage is very big business and counteirfection exists in all kind of products.

    This is an interesting article by WS

  5. 1998 was such a vintage in Europe with a very hot summer

    Not so hot and dry like this.

    Vines need none or few ice at Winter and none or few rain at Summer, hot temperatures = early ripening.

    Is it right?

    I'm sure this will be one of the best vintages, mainly for alcohol lovers. :biggrin:

  6. Craig - Yes I live in Italy in Reggio Emilia, I agree that rules can not guarantee the quality. DOC means "Di Origine Controllata" - 'of controlled origin', these rules have their value when they protect the origin of the wine, so you will not find on your table a "Chianti della Valpolicella". This prevents also million liters low-low-low quality producers like Tavernello to print 'DOC' on their wine boxes.

    These rules provide a control of part of the winemaking process, the choice to invest in quality is left to the producer. This is the reason why you can find bad wines labeled as DOCG.

  7. what's the difference what the "law" says if nobody audits or regulates the wineries?

    Controls exists, every DOC and DOCG wines are subject to:

    - yelds verification

    - chemical analysis

    - tasting

    - other documentary controls

    by the local trade commission (Camera di Commercio) or wine consortium

    Wineries, as all food producers, may be checked at any time by NAS, a special police branch for counterfeit products.

    Can anyone detail me what kind of specific rules are adopted in the USA?

  8. Super Tuscan reds such as Galatrona dominate the premium wine scene in Tuscany this year, as usual. These wines represent the creativity and energy of a new generation of winemakers in Italy. They are, for the most part, superior to any of the traditional wines of the region, such as Chianti Classico, Vino Nobile di Montepulciano and Brunello di Montalcino.

    Link to full article

    (Galatrona and Terre di Galatrona are two different wines from the same producer)

    The term super Tuscan has no legal or controlled meaning of any kind. It is a fantasy name that producers can use as they see fit.

    Yes I agree, you will never find "this is a supertuscan" printed on the label. I think that some producers try to define their wines as supertuscans also if they have a poor quality to improve sales, but I think that when every ring of the chain, (producer-importer-distributor-wineshop-consumer) agrees to that definition we need to consider that bottle as something 'special' that standard, even of high quality, DOC/DOCG wines can not offer.

    The whole super Tuscan thing became pointless as soon as they made it legal to use French varietals in the various DOCs.

    The % is always limited.

  9. " The group of Tuscan Vino da Tavola wines that have reached lofty heights in the wine world by concentrating on quality rather than tradition. The term "super Tuscan" was coined for any Tuscan red that fell outside the traditional blending laws, but came to describe the most expensive, most full-bodied wine a producer offered.

    Supertuscans break all the rules of winemaking in Tuscany. For example, they use non-traditional, non-Italian varietals. "

    Do you agree?

  10. These are the wines the 100% of my girlfriends :sad::wub: loved to drink (even with roasts):

    Lambrusco Grasparossa Dolce (Sweet Lambrusco)

    Malvasia Dolce (Sweet Malvasia)

    Brachetto d'Acqui (Sweet red from Piedmont)

    Vinsanto (Sweet white raisin)

    Moscato d'Asti (Sweet white)

    Asti Spumante (Sweet sparkling white)

    so at the restaurant I always order at least 2 bottles...

    :wacko:

  11. First of all, you were in Galicia. Did you drink any Albarino (white)? It is not a red wine area, really, but the whites can be good to really good, depending on the producer.

    Yes I drunk it, It was really good, a good bouquet. The bottle didn't have any label :huh: arghhh

    Many Spanish regions are just too hot and dry. Only the future will tell.

    Galizia is a hilly, sometimes rainy and not very hot region (22°C, July 20th).

    I'm sure that Spain produces many good wines but maybe they are a little bit harder to find. I bought few bottles in Madrid airport, I will let you know.

  12. I'm coming from a weekend in Spain, Santiago de Compostela. I didn't get very much impressed from the wines of this region. I've been in four different little restaurants and had a lunch in a local farm. I drank:

    - at the restaurant many bottles are served without label

    - it's a tradition to drink in milk cups

    - I drank a red wine (Crianza) with poor alcohol, maybe 9%

    - I drank two different Crianza Rioja with the same powerful taste but one with good bouquet and a bottle with a poor one, same vintage, same winery, same restaurant

    Spain VS Italy - What is the best wine? :cool:

  13. These are the complete DOCG rules for the Vino Nobile di Montepulciano:

    Product Specifications

    The Avignonesi Rosso 2000 is a typical example of a super-modern style that destroys the personality of the region that produces it.

    I don't know this wine.

    Super-modern style may be intended as a Supertuscan?

    Aren't Supertuscans super-modern style wines?

  14. I usually use BORMIOLI glasses.

    I prefer DEGUSTAZIONE for wine tasting. With friends: BORDEAUX for both white and red wines, and BAROLO for red kings. (The reason is I have not a lot of space into my dishwasher) :biggrin:

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