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  1. Grappa is typically fairly high in alcohol, so you shouldn't have any spoilage problems. Just make sure you take the stuff out of the grappa after achieving the flavor you want (and obviously you can't put in so much watery flavoring ingredients like apples that the alcoholic strength is diluted).

    Most infused grappa I've had has been a relatively straightforward herbal infusion, which is the traditional way: rue, licorice root, that sort of thing. If you're going to do something like an apple, vanilla and cinnamon infusion, I think you're wasting your money on grappa (which isn't cheap in the US). Better to do it in a bottle of vodka or overproof rum. Nardini is one of the less expensive brands, for example, and you're still talking 40 bucks a liter.

  2. Hi raji!

    I was probably unclear before. I know they refire the oven a few times a day: before lunch service and before dinner service. It's important, I think, just to make sure that you go as close to that time as possible.

    My personal experience is that a lot of the people who don't particularly like Grimaldi's (and there are plenty) are those who tend to go at, say, three o'clock in the afternoon to beat the crowds. Well, this is the worst possible time to go there, since the oven was last stoked sometime around 11:00. This is what I've been saying about the inconsistency. 12:00 or 5:00 will get you a mind-blowing pizza. 3:00 or 8:00. . . a very good pizza, but not in the same league.

    I guess I just don't agree with their oven management technique, which seems to be doing two or three big burns a day but otherwise not fueling the oven. This could, of course, be economics. They may have decided that it doesn't make good financial sense to keep the oven at peak heat at three o'clock in the afternoon when they won't be doing all that much business. Still, I've never been to Patsy's East Harlem and had a pizza that seemed to come from an underheated oven.

    Great picture of the oven, by the way! It's image DSC_1466 for others who may wish to give it a look. How were they about letting you take pictures? Did you arrange with them beforehand to take pictures? I ask because we were told (fairly rudely, I might add, even by NYC standards) that they did not want us taking pictures of the oven.

  3. Strangely, Vanilla Pepsi is pretty good. And it's hard to understand why Coke would have made such an artificial-tasting product. Artificial vanilla is usually simply vanillin, which is the main flavor component of vanilla. It's not as complex as the real thing, which has a zillion subtle flavor components, but it doesn't taste all that "artificial."

    On the other hand, I read somewhere that a big reason behind the flop of "New Coke" was the substitution of vanillin for vanilla extract.

  4. The real culprits are cupric sulphate (easy to spot), lead (not so easy) and aluminum (jury still out on this one.)

    If you're speaking of the presumed connection between aluminum and Alzheimer's disease , the jury has been in on that one for years. There is no danger from using aluminum cookware. Some quotes:

    ". . . the current consensus is that aluminum does not play a major role in the development of Alzheimer's disease . . ." - Leonard Berg, professor of neurology at the Washington University School of Medicine and former director of the Alzheimer's Disease Research Center

    ". . . if aluminum plays a role it is most probably a secondary one. The reasoning for this position is based on the fact that aluminum is one of the most abundant and pervasive elements. It is found everywhere . . ." - Zaven S. Khachaturian, director of the Ronald and Nancy Reagan Research Institute

    ". . . When the tissue was processed using more sophisticated analytical methods, or when more accurate measures of aluminum content in the Alzheimer's-diseased brain were used, no excess aluminum was found. In addition, studies of the total amount of aluminum in the body of patients with Alzheimer's Disease show no increase in aluminum concentrations as compared to healthy individuals.  In my opinion, the supposed relation between aluminum and Alzheimer's Disease is a simple case of neuromythology." - Charles DeCarli, director of the Alzheimer's Disease Center at the University of Kansas Medical Center

    As for the old stuff, I guess I should have them re-lined just as soon as I can because it would not be good if they contain lead of any kind.  I wonder what that costs?

    I don't think retinning is terribly expensive, but it's not cheap either. Perhaps there is some kind of test for lead you could do? I think there are tests for lead glaze in pottery.

  5. Berentzen seems to be the apple schnapps of preference among my shaker-wielding fans. Here's another one from Audrey:

    Applejack Cobbler

    2 oz. Lairds Applejack

    1 oz. Fresh Cranberry sauce (recipe on ocean spray bag)

    3, half-slices of orange (or 3/4 - 1oz fresh orange juice)

    1/2 oz Punt e mes

    1/2 oz Berentzens Apple Schnapps

    1 barspoon Al Wadi Pomegranate Molasses

    3 Dashes Angostura Bitters

    Garnish:  Cape Gooseberry with "onion paper" skin peeled backwards and hooked over the rim of the glass.

    Measure all ingredients into a mixing glass.  Muddle WELL.  Shake hard to at least a 10 second count, and strain into a chilled cocktail glass.  Garnish with gooseberry.  The color should be an opaque, ruby red---dark and bloody in effect.

    There's also the Apple Core from First as featured in Anthony Giglio's Cocktails in New York (thread here) which is:

    Apple Core

    1.25 oz : apple vodka

    0.75 oz : Berentzen Apfelkorn apple schnapps

    0.25 oz : fresh lemon juice

    1 tsp : apple cider

    Fill cocktail glass 1/3 with apple foam (1 sheet gelatin per cup of fresh apple juice, charged in a charger). Shake with cracked ice and strain into a cocktail glass.

  6. The original vessel described by bleu may well be safe because there is no note about copper showing through, and no apparent need to re-tin. Some of us think that tin is toxic, but it is still allowed for sale as a copper lining, after testing by my government.

    I agree that a tin lining should be safe. The discussion about copper and safety for cooking evolved out of a discussion on "what if" the lining was failing.

    When the tin begins to wear through (my French pans lasted several years) I was still able to use them for non acidic foods, without getting sick.

    Hey, knock yourself out. :smile: It's your own body and you can take your own risks. I will simply point out, however, that it's possible to ingest too much copper (and lead, etc.) without immediately getting "sick" from it. Especially if you're only using it maybe a few times a month. I cook with my copper cookware on a daily basis, and personally I wouldn't use a copper pan for "regular cooking" if the tin lining had failed. I'd get it re-tinned. Plenty of people eat food that's been cooked in lead-glazed pottery every so often, or drink hard booze that's been stored in a lead crystal decanter for years and don't "get sick" every time they do it. . . but that doesn't mean it's not a bad idea.

  7. What about carnitas which are traditionally fried in an unlined copper vessel?

    Certain things, like high fat/neutral pH carnitas or melted sugar, etc. seem to be okay. . . which is to say that they seem like cooking tasks that do not encourage copper to dissolve into the food.

    That said, there are a lot of things that are "traditionally" cooked in ways that are poisonous (e.g., cooked in lead-glazed pottery, etc.).

    I have a copper pot from France that needs to be retinned (after 3 uses!) but I can't see why I should bother. I just don't use it.

    This is one of the reasons I always recommend that people buy stainless-lined heavy copper instead of tin-lined. You have to baby tin-lined copper substantially more than even nonstick. No high heat, only soft (wood or thermal plastic) utensils, no scrubbing of any kind, etc. If your pan needs to be retinned after only three uses, it's likely that you either didn't use it gently enough or the pan wasn't tinned particularly well to begin with. It's also the case that a lot of what seems like "bargain priced French copper" is actually not made to be cooked with at all, but is meant for table-side presentation and service (e.g., Mauviel's table service line).

    Of course, if you don't use it -- problem solved! :smile:

    . . . I'm sure that I have consumed more copper as a metalsmith than an average person would by using a copper pot in their kitchen.

    It's hard to say whether or not that is true. There are several things to consider: You're probably not getting all that much copper into your body via absorption into the skin simply by handling copper with some frequency. So what we're talking about in your case is how much copper you have potentially inhaled in dust form from sanding copper (or perhaps in vapor form?). Unless you're leaving visible drifts of copper dust on your work surface (as, for example, a sculptor who works large pieces of copper might), and unless you're getting this exposure on a daily basis, it's unlikely that you're ingesting a great deal of copper. More than a "regular person," sure. . . but maybe not meaningfully more. From what I have read, it seems highly unlikely that you are being exposed to a copper particulate level in the air (~5,000 ng/m^3) that would make it likely that you would suffer from the various health risks associated with such exposure (metal fever, atrophic changes to nasal mucous membranes, various lung ailments, etc.).

    Then there is also the issue of the form of the copper. As I mentioned upthread, the soluble copper compounds (i.e., those that are likely to get into your food from cooking in a copper pan) have a greater impact on human health compared to the forms in the copper dust you might be getting from your work. So, I would guess that cooking in copper on a regular basis puts more copper and more of the worst forms of copper into the human body than working with copper jewelry. Of course, I don't fully appreciate the kind or magnitude of your work. If you're regularly working in an environment where copper dust and vapors are filling the air, you might consider protecting yourself.

    [NB. When I say "cooking in copper" here, we're talking about cooking in unlined copper, or in copper cooking vessels in which the lining has substantially failed. I cook in copper all the time, but in stainless lined copper where the food never contacts the copper.]

  8. Copper is poisonous.

    In what context - and how much? I'm sure EVERYTHING is poisonous to some degree, but as a jeweler, I have been filing and sanding and inhaling copper for 20 years and have never heard this before...

    What they said above. :smile:

    Copper is one of those things that is essential is small amounts and poisonous in larger amounts. Copper poisoning is usually an acute condition, but is is possible that it can build up and have a cumulative effect over time. So, for example, cooking tomato sauce in an unlined copper pan might not make you sick. But eating that tomato sauce 5 times a week for six months would be a very bad idea. This is all the more true because soluble copper compounds are the ones that pose the greatest risk to human health.

    If you think you're ingesting a fair amount of copper (I don't know how often you work with copper or how much of it you might ingest on a regular basis), I'd recommend doing something to minimize your exposure (gloves and a mask, for example).

  9. The great thing about these places is when you ask about the other items on the menu. For example, here is a conversation I have witnessed a few times:

    Fat Guy: "Say, what about this noodle dish here. . ."

    Guy behind the counter: "Fried dumpling! Five for dollar!"

    Fat Guy: "I see, I see. And how about this congee. . ."

    Guy behind the counter: "Fried dumpling! Five for dollar!"

    Fat Guy: "Right. Two orders of fried dumplings."

    Guy behind the counter: "Fried dumpling! Five for dollar!"

  10. Your cappucino looks remarkably un-sea-foam-ish. I saw your Silvia on the first page. Do you use some special attachement on the foaming wand? Or as it came from the factory. If so, what is the trick to lining up the hole with the surface. (Our current machine has the holes on the sides which makes life easier, but makes crappy coffee so we are strongly considering the Slivia.)

    Kathleen probably won't know the answer to this, so I'll chime in. The steam wand on my Silvia is outfitted with a custom-mod three hole steam tip from 1st-Line Equipment. This means that, instead of a single jet of steam pointed straight down, there are three jets of steam pointing out at an angle in three different directions (the configuration is triangular). This makes it much easier to achieve the crucial "turn over" of the milk that leads to proper microfoam.

  11. I always laugh when I think about the various liquors and ingredients of which Pegu Club is going through unprecedented amounts. I am quite sure, for example, that they are going through as much Rittenhouse rye, Punt e Mes and Green Chartreuse as the rest of the island of Manhattan combined. And I've got to suspect that they're going through a significant percentage of NYC's Laird's applejack now, too.

  12. I am in Houston until November 20 doing some performances. Pretty soon the rehearsal schedule will lighten up, and I thought I might like to try a few places in town with real cocktails. I'm primarily looking for quieter places with adult drinks and an upscale atmosphere. No loud college beer and frozen margarita places or pickup joints. I'd like to taste the best Houston has to offer in mixology.

    Suggestions are welcomed. :smile:

  13. 2) What do you mean by clove tincture?  How numbing should the stuff be?  How many cloves to how much vodka aged for how long?  Or how many drops of clove oil to how much vodka?

    One of the cool things they have going at Pegu is a whole array of single-flavor tinctures behind the bar: clove, cinnamon, grains of paradise, pepper. . . you name it. I've been meaning to make a tincture of Sichuan peppercorns to see how that might work. Could be interesting. . . could suck.

    "Tincture" in this context means, more or less, "the volatile parts of a substance, separated by a solvent (alcohol, in this case)." Audrey can probably supply any specifics, but my understanding is that it's something like: one ounce of whole spice toasted, ground up and mixed with vodka for X hours, then filtered.

  14. Everyone is also getting their response to the announcements out.

    From Per Se:

    "I am deeply honored to receive this distinction from the Michelin Guide -- a truly legendary recognition," said chef Thomas Keller. "I established Per Se in the spirit of The French Laundry, we strive to give our guests the finest dining experience and I am so blessed to work with an incredibly talented and dedicated team.  I share this acknowledgement with Laura Cunningham, who has been with me since the inception of The French Laundry and has supervised the development of per se, chef de cuisine Jonathan Benno, director of operations Eric Lilavois and the entire staff of all of our restaurants."

    From ADNY:

    Alain Ducasse at the Essex House has been honored with three stars by the Michelin Guide New York City 2006 making Alain Ducasse the only chef ever to have three restaurants (the celebrated Alain Ducasse at the Plaza Athénée, Paris, and Louis XV in Monaco are the other two) with three stars each from the prestigious guide. . . .  In Alain Ducasse's eyes every guest is a 'star' and he insists on treating each and everyone as such. No matter what day of the week, what country, he believes there is only one criterion for success – quality. To maintain this level of excellence, Alain Ducasse relies heavily on strong teams in whom he has confidence; he gives the tempo and inspires the energy to continue his incessant quest for perfection. Tony Esnault, 34, Executive Chef, has worked with Alain Ducasse for three years in Monaco and has known, traveled and shared the same passionate exploration of cuisine and hospitality for over seven years.  Yannis Stanisiere is the restaurant manager and carefully looks after the guests while Andre Compeyre, Chef Sommelier, is responsible for selecting the greatest international wines.
  15. For those who are interested, here is the complete list of NYC Michelin restaurants:

    Manhattan

    66

    202 Restaurant

    21 Club

    44 & X Hell's Kitchen

    5 Ninth

    71 Clinton Fresh Food

    Abboccato

    Acappella

    Acqua Pazza

    Aix

    Aki

    Alain Ducasse [Essex House] -- *** -- 5 couverts red

    Alamo

    Alcala

    Aleo

    Alto

    AMA

    Amuse

    Annisa -- * -- 2 couverts black

    AOC Bedford

    Apizz

    Aquagrill

    Aquavit

    Aroma Kitchen & Wine Bar

    Artie's Deli

    Artisanal

    Asia De Cuba

    Asiate

    Atlantic Grill

    August

    Aureole -- * -- 4 couverts black

    Avra Estiatorio

    Babbo -- * -- 3 couverts black

    Balthazar

    Banjara

    Bar Americian

    Bar Masa

    Barbetta

    Basta Pasta

    Bayard's

    Bayou

    Beacon

    Becco

    Bellini

    Ben Benson's

    Beppe

    Beyoglu

    Bice

    Biltmore Room

    Bistro 60

    Bistro Cassis

    Bistro du Vent

    BLT Fish -- * -- 3 couverts black

    BLT Prime

    BLT Steak

    Blue Fin [W Hotel]

    Blue Hill

    Blue Ribbon

    Blue Ribbon Bakery

    Blue Ribbon Sushi

    Blue Water Grill

    Boathouse Central Park

    Bobby Van' s Steakhouse

    Boi

    Bolo

    Bombay Talkie

    Bond Street

    Bottega Del Vino

    Bouley -- ** -- 4 couverts black

    Brasserie

    Brasserie 81/2

    Bread Tribeca

    Bricco

    Bridge Café

    Bruno

    Bryant Park Grill

    Bull and Bear [Waldorf Astoria Hotel]

    Cabana

    Café Boulud -- * -- 3 couverts black

    Café Centro

    Café de Bruxelles

    Café Gray -- * -- 3 couverts red

    Café Mogador

    Café Sabarsky

    Calle Ocho

    Canaletto

    Candle Café

    Capsouto Frères

    Casa La Femme North

    Casa Mono

    Caviar & Banana

    Cellini

    Cendrillon

    Centolire

    Cesca

    Chanterelle

    Chelsea Bistro

    China Grill

    Cho Dang Gol

    Chubo

    Cipriani Dolci

    Circus

    Cité

    Compass

    Craft -- * -- 3 couverts black

    Craftbar

    Crispo

    Cru -- * -- 4 couverts black

    Cube 63

    Da Antonio

    Da Giacomo

    Da Silvano

    Da Umberto

    Daniel -- ** -- 5 couverts red

    Danube -- ** -- 3 couverts red

    Davidburke & Donatella

    Dawat

    DB Bistro Moderne

    Del Frisco's

    Della Rovere

    Devi

    Dim Sum Go Go

    Diwan

    Django

    Donguri

    Dos Caminos

    Downtown Cipriani

    Dylan Prime

    El Cid

    El Faro

    Eleven Madison Park

    EN Japanese Brasserie

    ESCA

    Estiatorio Milos

    Etats-Unis -- * -- 1 couvert black

    Etcetera Etcetera

    Extra Virgin

    Felidia

    Fiamma Osteria -- * -- 3 couverts black

    Fig & Olive

    Firebird

    Five Points

    Fives

    Fleur de Sel -- * -- 2 couverts black

    Flor's Kitchen

    Four Seasons

    Frankie and Johnnie's

    Frederick's Madison

    Fresco by Scotto

    fresh

    Fuleen Seafood

    Gabriel's

    Gallagher's

    Gari

    Gascogne

    Gavroche

    Geisha

    Giambelli 50th

    Gigino at Wagner Park

    Gigino Trattoria

    Giorgione

    Giovanni

    Gnocco

    Gobo

    Golden Unicorn

    Good Enough to Eat

    Gotham Bar and Grill -- * -- 3 couverts black

    Gramercy Tavern -- * -- 3 couverts black

    Grand Central Oyster Bar

    Grand Sichuan Eastern

    Great N. Y. Noodletown

    Hangawi

    Harlem Grill

    Hasaki

    Hearth

    HEDEH

    Hell's Kitchen

    Home

    Honmura An

    I Coppi

    I Trulli

    IAN

    Ichiro

    Ida Mae

    Il Buco

    Il Cantinori

    Il Cortile

    Il Menestrello

    Il Monello

    Il Mulino

    Il Nido

    Il Palazzo

    Il Riccio

    Il Tinello

    Inagiku

    Inoteca

    Iron Sushi

    Isabella's

    Ithaka

    Itzocan

    Jack's Luxury Oyster Bar

    Jane

    Jarnac

    Jean Claude

    Jean-Georges -- *** -- 4 couverts black

    Jean-Luc

    Jewel Bako -- * -- 1 couvert red

    Jewel Bako Makimono

    Joe Allen

    JoJo -- * -- 2 couverts black

    Josephs Citarella

    Jubilee

    Kai

    Keens Steakhouse

    Khyber Grill

    Kings' Carriage House

    Kirara

    Kitchen 22

    Kitchen 82

    Kittichai [60Thompson Hotel]

    Koi

    Koi

    Komegashi

    Kurumazushi

    La Goulue -- * -- 2 couverts black

    La Grenouille

    La Mangeoire

    La Masseria

    La Paella

    L'Absinthe

    Lan

    Land Thai Kitchen

    Landmarc

    Lavagna

    LCB Brasserie

    Le Bernardin -- *** -- 5 couverts black

    Le Bilboquet

    Le Colonial

    Le Gigot

    Le Perigord

    Le Tableau

    Le Zie 2000

    Le Zinc

    L'Ecole

    Lenox Room

    Les Halles

    Les Halles Downtown

    Lever House -- * -- 3 couverts black

    L'Impero

    Lo Scalco -- * -- 3 couverts black

    Luca

    Lucy

    Lupa

    Lure Fishbar

    Lusardi's

    Macelleria

    Magnifico

    Maloney & Porcelli

    Mamlouk

    Mandarin Court

    March -- * -- 3 couverts black

    Markjoseph Steakhouse

    Mark's

    Marseille

    Mary's Fish Camp

    MAS

    Masa -- ** -- 2 couverts black

    Matsuri

    Maz Mezcal

    Megu

    Mercer Kitchen [Mercer Hotel]

    Mesa Grill

    Metrazur

    Mexicana Mamma

    Mezzaluna

    Mezzogiorno

    Michael Jordan's

    Michael's

    Molyvos

    Momofuku Noodle Bar

    Montrachet

    Morton's

    Mosto

    Mr. Chow

    Nadaman Hakubai

    Nam

    Nanni

    Nebraska Beef

    Nello

    NEO Sushi

    New Leaf Café

    New Wonton Garden

    Nice Matin

    Nice Restaurant

    Nick & Stef's Steakhouse

    Nick's

    Nicole's

    Nippon

    Nobu -- * 2 -- couverts black

    North Square

    Nyonya

    O Mai

    Ocean Grill

    Oceana -- * -- 3 couverts black

    Odeon

    Old Homestead

    Olives

    One if by land, two if by sea

    Ono

    Oriental Garden

    Orsay

    Orso

    Osteria Al Doge

    Osteria Del Circo

    Osteria Laguna

    Otto

    Ouest

    P.J. Clarke's

    Palm

    Palma

    Pampano

    Paola's

    Paradou

    Park Avenue Café

    Park Bistro

    Park Terrace Bistro

    Pastis

    Payard

    Pearl Oyster Bar

    Peasant

    Peking Duck House

    Pellegrino's

    Pepolino

    Per Se -- *** -- 5 couverts red

    Periyali

    Persepolis

    Petrosino

    Petrossian

    Phoenix Garden

    Picasso

    Piccolo Angolo

    Picholine -- * -- 3 couverts black

    Pietro's

    Ping's Seafood

    Pipa

    Place, The

    Po

    Pongal

    Pongsri Thai

    Porcupine

    Post House

    Prune

    Public

    Pure Food and Wine

    Quatorze Bis

    Raffaele

    Raoul's

    Red Cat

    Remi

    Rene Pujol

    Riingo

    Rocking Horse

    Rosa Mexicano

    Rothmann's

    Roy's New York

    Sachiko's on Clinton

    Salt

    San Domenico NY

    San Pietro

    Sapa

    Sapphire

    Sarabeth's

    Sardi's

    Savore

    Savoy

    Scaletta

    Scalini Fedeli -- * -- 3 couverts black

    Schiller's Liquor Bar

    Second Avenue Deli

    SEO

    Sette Mezzo

    Sevilla

    Shaan of India

    Shaburi

    Shaffer City

    Shanghai Pavilion

    Shun Lee Palace

    Siam Inn

    Silverleaf Tavern

    Smith & Wollensky

    Snack

    Soba Ya

    Solo

    Sparks Steak House

    Spice Market

    Spigolo

    Spotted Pig -- * -- 1 couvert black

    Stanton Social

    Strip House

    Suba

    Suenos

    Sugiyama

    Sunrise 27

    Surya

    Sushi Ann

    Sushi of Gari

    Sushi Seki

    Sushi Yasuda

    Sushi Zen

    Sushiden

    Sushiya

    Sweet-n-Tart Restaurant

    Tabla

    Table XII

    Tamarind

    Tao

    Taormina

    Taste

    Tasting Room

    Teodora

    Thaiso'n

    Thalia

    The Capital Grille

    The Harrison

    The Manhattan Ocean Club

    The Mermaid Inn

    The Modern -- * -- 3 couverts black

    The Sea Grill

    The Steakhouse at Monkey Bar

    Tocqueville

    Tomoe Sushi

    Town

    Trata Estiatorio

    Trattoria Dell' Arte

    Triangolo

    Tribeca Grill

    Trio

    Triomphe

    Tropica

    Turkish Kitchen

    Tuscan Square

    Union Square Café

    V Steakhouse

    Va Tutto

    Vatan

    Vento

    Veritas -- * -- 2 couverts black

    ViceVersa

    Vivolvo

    Vong -- * 2 -- couverts black

    Wallsé -- * -- 2 couverts black

    Water Club

    WD-50 -- * -- 2 couverts black

    Wolfgang's Steakhouse

    Wondee Siam II

    Woo Lae Oak

    Xing

    Yama

    Yangpyung Seoul

    Zarela

    Zebu Grill

    Zoë

    Zutto

    Brooklyn

    Al Di La

    Applewood

    Areo

    Banania Café

    Blue Ribbon Sushi

    Chestnut

    DuMont

    Elia

    Five Front

    Garden Café

    Henry's End

    Locanda Vini & Olii

    Noodle Pudding

    Osaka

    Pearl Room

    Peter Luger -- * -- 1 couvert black

    Queen

    Quercy

    River Café

    Saul -- * -- 2 couverts black

    Savoia

    Sea

    Stone Park Café

    The Grocery

    Tuscany Grill

    Bronx

    Riverdale Garden

    Roberto's Restaurant

    Queens

    718 Restaurant

    Bann Thai

    Brick Café

    Jackson Diner

    KumGanSan

    Malagueta

    Piccola Venezia

    Sapori D'Ischia

    Sripraphai

    Taverna Kyclades

    Tournesol

    Trattoria L'Incontro

    Water's Edge

    Staten Island

    Aesop's Tables

    American Grill

    Carol's Café

    The Parsonage

  16. I don't know for sure, but I would be surprised if it is possible to purchase "regular supermarket milk" that hasn't come from cows that have been treated with rBGH.

    If one is avoiding rBGH milk (which just so happens to come from industrial megafarms) and also doesn't choose organic simply for the sake of being organic (thus eliminating non-local organic megafarms), that equals a preference for local small farm milk.

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