The expertise in this forum is awesome. I know I'm wrong, but I don't know the details of why so am ready to learn: I started in wine with a copy of Frank Schoonmaker, 'Schoonmaker's Encyclopedia of Wine', Hastings House, New York, 1968. and shopping in Georgetown in DC in the late 1960s. Bought Volnay, Pommard, Beaune, Corton, Nuit St. George, etc. up to Chambertin. Tasted good to me. Keep the temperature a little under 70 F and let some air get to it for maybe 30 minutes, and it often took on some unbelievably good aromas. As I recall, 1964, 1961, and 1959 were good. In the early 1990s, had some Morey St. Denis from 1985 shipped by Neal Rosenthal -- "one of the few good old-time flavors left to enjoy!" Tried some of the more expensive common samples from Chianti and Barolo -- liked them. Anything Appellation Controlee from around Macon -- fine with me. Meursault? A favorite. Put ten pounds of ice cubes in a plastic mop bucket, cover with water, bury the bottle, wait 30 minutes, and enjoy, say with a buttered white sauce over seafood. These whites all seemed dry (no sugar?), 'crisp' (some acid?), and 'clean' (nicely balanced delicate flavors?). One I used to get in the early 1990s was shipped by Neal Rosenthal and was from a little northwest of the town of Macon -- liked it a lot. Rhone Valley and Chateauneuf du Pape? Seemed, say, 'less intense flavors' than Chambertin but fine. Bordeaux? Reminded me of chalk or "licking dusty window panes". Mostly didn't like it too well. One Brane-Cantenac seemed okay. And, the whites seemed too sweet. California? I tried and tried. Poured a lot down the drain. I couldn't try them all, and then try them all again each year, before forming an opinion. So, I formed an opinion: The reds -- Cabernet Sauvignon and Pinot Noir -- tasted, say, 'crude'. In comparison to Macon, I found the California Chardonnay sweet, flat (I guess low in acid), and with an unpleasant mixture of all the flavors of the fruit section of a grocery store produce department. My recipe for an imitation would be to start with, say, DelMonte fruit cocktail, strain the fruit, to the liquid add some vodka and some water, bottle it, and price it, now, at ุ for 24 ounces. Better, still: Discard the liquid and just eat the fruit. I hate to say these things. I know that the efforts at UC Davis give the California wine makers some of the best expertise on the planet. But, I'm just judging by what I poured. It's been a few years since I tried California wines and poured my last one down the drain. Now, looking at the prices, since I can buy a negotiated Pouilly Fuisse for half the price of a California Chardonnay, I'm not tempted to try again. But, Chile? Sure. For Ű can get 1.5 L plenty good enough for making white sauces and even drinking with the resulting food. And, the last one I got was nicely dry and crisp although the flavors were not quite as nice as from Macon. I know I'm wrong about California, at least. But, where in detail? I know I'm easily confused: I like the Mendelssohn violin concerto better than anything by Elvis, and I grew up in Memphis! I confess, I'm a man. But I can improve, if I really have to, I guess!