tommy

I went to Assembly once. The steak they serve is okay but it's choice. However their prices are prime. ← their only web presence (from what i can see - ardore.com) seems to suggest "Prime". although they don't say "USDA Prime". maybe they think they have prime steaks. along with prime customers. and prime entertainment. the fact that their only web presence is ardore.com is another reason i won't bother going.

the other half of the equation is if it's dry-aged. i've read nothing suggesting that Assembly is serving USDA Prime dry-aged beef. and getting to Englewood is more difficult than getting to the city, depending on where one lives! hell, haven't i had arguments with you about how fast one can get to the upper west side?!? you stating how fast it is, and me suggesting that sometimes people like to just avoid driving into the city? bizzarogullet.com.

so there's no confusion, these dishes have been pretty much regularly available for a while. all very good. consistently. C46 has remained tops in my estimation, and in the estimation of many whose opinions i value, even during the time that they apparently fell out of favor with some. hopefully the interest in this dinner at C46 goes over better than the planned pig roast at bobolink! they could use the business and it's still super! edited for clarity.

Hi Tommy, they said in a recent email to me (the park steakhouse that is) that they have dry aged beef so you may want to call them to ask... or check their site maybe? Hope that changes your mind btw their bar and drink menu is great! (and I'm pretty much a non-drinker but like somethin good on occasion!) ← but it's not USDA Prime. and they're charging as much for that non-prime beef as Luger, Wolfgang's, and Ben & Jack's. $76 for porterhouse for 2. i started out liking The Park. however, i've had a few bad service experiences (same person. just not very good or knowledgeable). for that price i'll eat in NYC and have, for the most part, a better piece of beef and better service.

aug 28, 2005: i start to notice discussion on copeland oct 1, 2005: i read an interesting review in the Times and put it on my go-to list dec 15, 2005: it's off my list

iirc, Ben & Jack's received a single star. from Marian Burros, who seemed somewhat turned off by the place. or perhaps she was turned off by Pat Mason's hair. i forget.

apparently keens doesn't have any sides.

had a burger at Michael Jordan's the other day. ordered m/r, sent out m/w. regardless, it was very juicy and flavorful, with a great crust and good bun. they have 2 burgers: a 10 oz for about $15 and a 16 oz for about $20 i think. the 10 ounce seemed like the right size. i'd put this burger up there with S&W and Blue Smoke. wines by the glass at Michael Jordan's bar are pathetic. i'm offended they'd even offer Glass Mountain. ← recently had my second burger at Michael Jordan's. the wine list by-the-glass has clearly been revamped, with no sign of Glass Mountain. however, there's also no sign of much under 10 dollars, with prices shooting up to 15 per glass rather effortlessly. they've redone their menu as well, with only 1 burger being served. they claim 12 ounces. didn't seem that big, thankfully. (they also have 3 "mini-burgers" on the menu) i don't know if i just got lucky, but this burger tasted of dry-aged beef. that's something you don't find very often. quite excellent in my estimation. served m/r as ordered. a bit too much bun. but the guts were easily pulled out of the top half. highly recommended.

However, apparently this is its first rated review in the Times. (Where there has been a previous review, Bruni normally mentions it.) ← yes, apparently.

keens has been around for a hundred some-odd years or so. relatively well-known. especially to sports fans.

We already do this in Philly. You can check out the Dangerous Dining Club Yahoo Group for our past exploits. We're having an authentic Navidad Puertoriqueno next on Dec. 20 and 21. The restaurant was too small to accomodate us all on one night so I'm playing hostess twice! This really is not so difficult to do. Someone has to volunteer to contact the restaurant and plan a menu. We try to keep our cost at $25/person. If it's a more upscale restaurant then we price it accordingly. The price must bewith tax and gratuity included. That way whomever is hosting can collect all the monies at the beginning of the evening, pay the restaurant and then be a guest themselves. No haggling, penny counting, tip figuring or any such nonsense at the end of the evening. We also try to go to BYO restaurants whenever possible. If the restaurant has a liquor license then it's a cash bar, so none of the teetotalers have to subsidize the drinkers. Very egalitarian and seems to work well. ← i'd imagine this would have to be done off-site or via PM, given the restrictions of egullet concerning events planning. ← Although somehow the PA Pizza Club manages to pull this off. Maybe it should be based on that model... ← just making sure Anonymouze understands how that model might not work here, as, perhaps, was suggested.

We already do this in Philly. You can check out the Dangerous Dining Club Yahoo Group for our past exploits. We're having an authentic Navidad Puertoriqueno next on Dec. 20 and 21. The restaurant was too small to accomodate us all on one night so I'm playing hostess twice! This really is not so difficult to do. Someone has to volunteer to contact the restaurant and plan a menu. We try to keep our cost at $25/person. If it's a more upscale restaurant then we price it accordingly. The price must bewith tax and gratuity included. That way whomever is hosting can collect all the monies at the beginning of the evening, pay the restaurant and then be a guest themselves. No haggling, penny counting, tip figuring or any such nonsense at the end of the evening. We also try to go to BYO restaurants whenever possible. If the restaurant has a liquor license then it's a cash bar, so none of the teetotalers have to subsidize the drinkers. Very egalitarian and seems to work well. ← i'd imagine this would have to be done off-site or via PM, given the restrictions of egullet concerning events planning.

while i agree that the Park Steakhouse is pretty decent (for what it is), they're not serving USDA prime dry-aged beef, as far as i know. that's a sticking point for me. at least the River Palm does. however i don't find the River Palm very good. on a related note, i wouldn't expect much flavor out of filet. though it should be done properly and have a nice char to it. that's the whole point. if they drop the ball on that then they're finished. i admit it it: i'm a steak snob. and i just can't get jazzed about *any* steakhouse in northern NJ. i'd rather buy a nice purple piece of meat at Whole Foods and throw it on the grill.

agreed. i misread one passage. beside the point i'd think. but since i now don't think that he was there i don't have a dog in this race.

the byo/full bar angle might be a factor here. do you want to have a drink? if so, do you mind BYOing? i'm all up with curlz on the Jefferson, although it can get crowded even at the bar at 9.30 on a weekday. don't bank on a seat at the bar for a late dinner. because it's good. the gold standard for interesting italian food in hoboken, and jersey in general. i'm with the Elysian. you have to order well there, or else you can end up with a very mediocre meal. no smoking is definitely a plus, as susan says. it's my new standard for drinks and a quick bite when i'm in hoboken. hell i might be tempted to go to Lua for a some great apps and a great view of the city if i were on my own in hoboken for dinner. how about Ted and Jo's for a quick bite that will not blow you away, but might introduce you to some of the local (old-school, even) charm of hoboken. or, if you're like me and you know the area, it might be a place to steer clear of. come to think of it it'll probably be packed at the bar every night, and that's no fun. you can eat light practically anywhere. what else are we talking about here?

they should include a pic of their beautiful and enormous fucking wine glasses as well. fyi the listing in yp.yahoo.com is wrong. it's (201) 804-6244, not (201) 804-6233 (which is their fax number). and jeff/anthony, if you're reading this, i was going to tell you that on monday, but you're not open on monday so had to go elsewhere!!! hooray to curlz for making me try this place!!

i took that he was at the restaurant at some point. perhaps in disguise. who knows if bruni knows something the rest of us don't (yeah, just maybe). perhaps he won't be reviewing del posto. if he does, well, i'll find it hard to take anything he says without a grain of salt, given this article. then again i usually just try restaurants on my own and come to my own conclusions regrardless of what wednesday's paper has to say.

some of the river edge staff are actually quite knowledgeable in my experience. i've gotten good recs from more than a few in the past 5 years or so that i've been shopping there. i'll throw in carlo russo in ho-ho-kus. clearly an idea of what part of "northern NJ" would be helpful in this exercise. there's a decent wine store pretty much within 30 minutes of any part of northern NJ.

i love the name, if only because it's so odd that there was bound to be a .com URL available. and there was: http://www.silveroakbistro.com/ menu looks promising at this BYO. please, someone go there and talk about it on the internet so my google searches don't return only their website. or my query here. BYO. where the cuban place(s) used to be. RIP. edited for misspelling of "www".

If you're buying I'll be your friend. ← rosie, i know you've been told that you're not supposed to be spending any time with me. i'm guessing that's grounds for dismissal! curlz, i'll let you know what i think of the place. looks good! although i'm worried about overly-sweet sangria.

plenty of places run discounts during the week. it could turn out to be good news for the restaurant, assuming they get more business. really really good news for us diners, though, for sure.

i hear they only take reservations for 6 or more? bad news for me, as i don't have 5 friends.

a bigger mistake i cannot think of.

i find LS a reasonable choice for simply prepared seafood (if you order correctly. very carefully) and a decent wine selection. however, no award or accolade from the Wine Spectator, of all places, makes it inexpensive (it's not, and can be quite pricey) or makes it a good choice in general. speaking to the paramus, NJ location, there are more interesting options in NYC. i've only eaten at 2 locations, as far as i can remember, so i can't speak to differences in the locations. but apparently there's an opinion that they might differ somewhat, at least in atmosphere. i certainly value opinions. as for the greater Boston area, i'm afraid i haven't been there in a while, but i'm looking forward to suggestions for good seafood, as i'll be back in the spring!

nice job, chef. i'm guessing they spent the better part of a full afternoon at your place?