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  1. Fat Guy x

    Drinking Glasses

    Riedel definitely has a more extensive selection of shapes in the Sommelier series, but if I'm not mistaken you can get Spiegelau Vino Grande in a similar number of shapes to Vinum -- approximately 20 choices in each series not including the non-wine glasses (Spiegelau also makes matching barware). The Spiegelau and Riedel sites give the exact specifications of the product lines. I'd also agree readily that Sommeliers, at four to six times the cost of Spiegelau, are more attractive, but I'm not sure I'd agree about that with respect to the Vinum series (at twice the cost). I suppose a potential buyer should examine the two up close or at least look at the Web site photos. ----- Steven A. Shaw www.fat-guy.com
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    Drinking Glasses

    I bought mine at Morrell in Rockefeller Center. I didn't bargain-hunt all that aggressively, because Morrell's prices seemed fair and I couldn't imagine saving more than a dollar or so a stem if I'd searched for days for the deepest discount. I know it's possible to get lower prices from some of the big mail-order houses, but shipping charges may cancel out the savings -- not to mention there's a risk of damage. So for anybody living in a major metropolitan area, or even a smaller town that happens to have a well-stocked wine shop, I'd say just buy locally. Othewise, for those who have to go the mail-order route, try K&L, which sells boxes of six stems for Ů.99 per. (Edited by Fat Guy at 5:20 pm on July 22, 2001) ----- Steven A. Shaw www.fat-guy.com
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    Drinking Glasses

    Michelle I specifically would recommend against the INAO glass as an all-purpose glass. I have two sets of them that I use for the occasional tasting that I host, but remember there is a huge difference between the goal of a tasting and the goal of drinking for pleasure. To oversimplify, a tasting glass is designed to bring out the flaws in a wine, and to subject it to the most rigorous scrutiny. A glass designed for pleasure-drinking minimizes a wine's flaws and enhances its good qualities. The INAO glasses are, also, way too small. They do pinch-hit nicely for dessert wines, though. ----- Steven A. Shaw www.fat-guy.com
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    Drinking Glasses

    It's possible to get pretty crazy about stemware and other wine apparatus. I have a friend who has no less than ten distinct shapes of Riedel stems (in sets of 16, I should add) and he often gripes that if he just had one more a particular wine would taste even better (I think there are more than 30 shapes in the Sommelier series -- that's the best of the Riedel lines -- alone). And for most of history people enjoyed fine wine just fine without so many specialized glasses. Still, if you're going to spend considerable sums of money on wine it makes sense to take reasonable steps to get the most out of that wine. This includes not only using good and appropriate stemware (and cleaning it properly -- my major pet peeve about how most of my friends handle their stemware) but also serving wine at the right temperature, and before that storing it properly and decanting if necessary. I've participated in tastings where the same wine was served in four different glasses and it did indeed display different characteristics in each. I wouldn't say it tasted like four different wines, but there are certainly better and worse glasses for any given wine. Whatever kind of wine glasses you get, modern wine thinking (with which I agree) holds that they should be 1) plain, 2) colorless, 3) tulip-shaped, 4) thin lipped, and 5) crystal. The basic reasons are 1&2) a glass with facets or etchings, or a colored glass, stifles the visual appreciation of wine, 3) the tulip (a/k/a egg) shape, meaning that the glass widens into a bowl at the stem and then tapers back inwards towards the lip, serves to concentrate and collect a wine's bouquet, which is the most important element of perceiving wine's subtleties, 4) a thin, smooth lip creates a narrow stream of wine that hits the most sensitive areas of the tongue (really), 5) crystal in addition to being aesthetically preferable to glass has a rougher surface than glass and therefore helps wine release its aromas as you swirl and sip (this is all at the microscopic level -- of course crystal appears perfectly smooth to the naked eye). Me, I get by primarily with two sets of Spiegelau glasses -- the Bordeaux and Burgundy (from the largest sized series) -- which are incredibly cheap (maybe ů per stem) given their quality. (I'm seeing mostly these in the best restaurants. The Riedel Sommeliers are too expensive and fragile for restaurant use and the lower level Riedels aren't as good as Spiegelau.) I use the Bordeaux glasses (the smaller of the two) for white wines too. Traditional thinking is that the white wine glass should be small, in order to prevent the rapid warming that would occur in a vessel with more surface area. But I think a lot of people are beginning to think that the larger glasses allow for better appreciation of the wine. As long as you hold the glass by the stem instead of cupping it in your hand (another pet peeve, though there are exceptions like brandy which are supposed to be warmed in the hand which is why brandy snifters have only vestigial stems) the wine won't get too warm too quickly. I've got some other glasses around too. The "Paris goblet" which is your basic almost-spherical wine glass, works well enough for almost any wine. If I have a party (which I do maybe twice a decade), I put those out because it's silly to use massive connoisseur stems in a walking-around-and-sipping environment (though, ironically, my Paris goblets are significantly more expensive than my Spiegelaus, probably by a factor of 10, because they're Baccarat Perfection -- wedding gift). I have some of the traditional small white wine glasses that I find work very well as dessert wine glasses. There are glasses here and there taking up space in my cabinet that I bought in various misguided efforts to build a collection -- I never use them and really should get rid of most. A few Champagne flutes round out the inventory at the Shaw/Shapiro household. For good Champagne, though, I like to use the small white wine glasses. Flutes don't do much for the bouquet. I should probably get some brandy snifters but I don't drink enough brandy for that to be a priority. For the occasional digestif a regular glass is fine. Unfortunately, many of us didn't know as much about wine when we got married as we do now, and we picked our wedding patterns for appearance rather than oenological enjoyment. But given how cheap the Spiegelaus are, it's an easy problem to correct. One warning, though: Big stems take up more cabinet space than you can easily imagine. It's hard even to find a shelf tall enough. (Edited by Fat Guy at 2:45 am on July 22, 2001) ----- Steven A. Shaw www.fat-guy.com
  5. For those in Manhattan, there is also a Bennies on the Upper West Side (321 1/2 amsterdam between 75th and 76th, 212-749-7500). It's not quite as wonderful as the one in Jersey, but it's excellent nonetheless. At the one in Jersey, the matriarch of the family is present and in control. Manhattan operates more as a satellite. For some dishes this doesn't matter, especially the make-ahead salads and spreads which are indistinguishable between locations. But falafel is unfortunately warmed over in Manhattan while fresh in Jersey. ----- Steven A. Shaw www.fat-guy.com
  6. I was walking on Ninth Avenue in Manhattan tonight (checking out the Roosevelt Hotel -- what a scene; but that's a different story) and wandered by a Thai place called Wondee (792 Ninth Avenue between 52nd and 53rd Streets, 212-459-9057). A longshot, since I think this may be a standard Thai name, but do you know if there's a relationship? Also, do you have address/phone info for these places you're posting about?
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