Milagai
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Would the Indian / Pakistani "meat and wheat" dish
haleem, qualify?
Recipe: http://www.indiacurry.com/lamb/l004lambhaleem.htm
I got the impression that the scrappleses and whatnots are
more downscale and made of waste parts. Haleem seems more
upscale than that, though I really don't know much about this...
Milagai
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The only problem with small tupperware is the difficulty of washing them in the dishwasher. They're so tiny that they flop around everywhere and often do not get properly washed by the jets.As a general rule, and within reasonable limits, the smaller the container, the more often it gets used.
A good rule indeed. Do you ever feel though that we who believe in this rule are in the majority? My parents certainly never had tiny tupperware, nor do any of my friends.
Me too! I have spent untold amounts of money at Container Store.
I also like them to send teensy portions of fruits/veggies
when packing my kids' tiffins. Yr comment makes me wonder
how my mother packed for us, and I recall we took the
whole fruit
Re dishwasher: I snag them in some nifty clips my DW has for
holding such small floppy items....
Milagai
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Good luck!
Other things that have already been mentioned, that have worked very well for me: making something other than the protein item the main focus of the meal--especially the vegetables, which even these days still tend to get relegated to side-dish status in European-influenced cuisines; and reliance on ethnic cuisines with long-established traditions of low/no-meat cooking.
Acxshully, it's not like vegetables have 0 protein - most
ingredients have small amounts of protein that all add up.
Second, most vegetarian cuisines DO include a protein component
as an important part of the meal (e.g. a dal or paneer dish in
the Indian food plate, which we often speak
of as the "main dish", even though it may occupy a smaller
proportion of the plate as compared to slab-o-
beast), and there's all the other things that are
important too - the rice / roti; and some of the veggies...
The Indian food plate looks pretty similar, whether it's vegetarian
or non-vegetarian: the quantity and placement of the grain (rice or roti)
and of the other dishes....
Milagai
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Enjoyed the article greatly. I also loved the last line, especially
as I am currently pondering in my life the realization that
what I produce (cooking or otherwise) is more satisfying than
what I consume (eating or otherwise)....
Looking fwd to more..
Milagai
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I'm curious about something.
So many posters have mentioned that restaurant/hotel
staff who take home unused items that would have
been thrown away anyway, are treated as thieves.
Why was that policy created?
Milagai
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Is a taboon oven similar to a tandoor? That bread looked a lot like naan...
Anything other than bread made in a taboon?
Great pictures...
Milagai
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Overall question:
please tell me what you find useful if you feel more
hungry than usual. I've heard from my meater friends that
vegetarian food does not provide the feeling of satiety as quickly
or long-lastingly as slabs of meat does....
What would you do to deal with that, assuming eating double
quantities is not an option
Please do tell me whether some strategies usually
suggested (whole grains rather than refined, and many
small meals rather than 3 large ones, etc) really work?
thanks
Milagai
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Hello!
Is the the same eg where previously people
very enthusiastically discussed the wonders
of cheese made with mite droppings
or with the mites themselves?
http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=85530&hl=
Maybe the problem here is the fishmongers
should charge extra for the worms and market
it as a special process. Highprotein after all
and it's not the dreaded tofu.
Or, as suggested upthread, the latest in weight control
(though as also pointed out, that's hardly a new idea).
Or market it in an upscale restaurant, as in this
discussion: http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=90000&hl=
Worms and fish seem to have been previously
discussed here too:
http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=85934&hl=
Milagai
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What Grub said!
I'd be happy to talk you through any recipes etc.
if you pm me....
Milagai
(veggie family not bored yet)
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It's been about 19 hours so far. The thing with the lemons is even if they were in an incredibly wide jar instead of a tall one they'd only be sitting in the juice, rather than covered by it. Maybe lemons as a rule were much much smaller when she published this book?
If the recipe book was published in India, your thought about
the size of the lemons is correct.
US style lemons (huge and yellow) are not known in India,
Indian style lemons (small, green or yellow and very thin skinned)
are not known in the US or if they are, I don't know the name.
In Hindi they're called "kaagazi nimbu". Not fully analogous to
US limes. Something in between US limes and lemons.
The Indian nimbus are much smaller (less than a golf ball)
Milagai
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My family is vegetarian, and kids raised that way since infancy,
and all are flourishing health-wise.
It'll be interesting to see if kids' idea of teenage rebellion
is a cheeseburger
But right now there's no problem with varied and yummy food.
I was lucky to be raised in a culture that's got probably
the world's best vegetarian menu, though I was not raised
a vegetarian myself. Making the switch was pretty painless.
It's more the spices that make my food rather than the
main ingredient anyway.....
My 9 yo DD accidentally took a bite of shrimp cracker,
thinking it was a regular papad and the aghast look on her
face when the fish staink hit her palate was priceless.
Milagai
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I don't know what kind of food you're used to,
but things like ginger, cumin, garlic, and many other
spices are very medicinal for soothing unhappy
GI tracts. They perk up any otherwise bland food
(soup, congee, whatever) and make it much more
appetizing.
Milagai
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This is hardly something new, no idea why they just
caught the eye of the writer.
Brands like Deep have had frozen rotis, parathas etc.
for years now, and before that many brands had
frozen dishes of all kinds (chhole, kormas, whatever).
I've tried many of the frozen parathas / rotis,
and while nothing beats a freshly made roti,
the frozen ones are not bad.
Milagai
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not to rain on your parade, but this comes from the dook apartment/residence hall terms
V. TERMS AFFECTING RIGHTS, ORDER, HEALTH AND SAFETY
P. Selling or soliciting, to include the operation of a private enterprise, on the premises of University housing by residents or outsiders, that is either commercial or unrelated to University objectives or activities, is prohibited.
and if you're living in a residence hall:
V. TERMS AFFECTING RIGHTS, ORDER, HEALTH AND SAFETY
O. Selling or soliciting, to include the operation of a private enterprise, in the residence halls, by residents or outsiders, which is either commercial or unrelated to University objectives or activities is prohibited.
This is unfortunate. I'll just pretend I've never read the above statements should anyone official ask. I think a bit of civil disobedience is in order. I will push forward (and do my best to catalog my progress).
Well, you just outed yourself online and can no longer claim ignorance
(and ignorance of rules is never accepted as an exculpation for
flouting them).
Many "official" eyes read public fora
It would be interesting to know your enterprise fares vs.
that of say, a local "tamale lady" or "chapati lady" .....
Milagai
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Have you had much experience or luck using
clay or stone vessels (kalchatti, mannchatti, etc.)?
I want to try, but each time I leave India I end
up deciding not to lug such a heavy and fragile object along,
Milagai
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Ah, okay I think I get it. It's like the Japanese movie/flower/word Tampopo being spelled "tanpopo" in Hiragana but expected to be pronounced "tampopo," simply because an "n" that preceeds "p" or "b" has -- as you say -- a sort of aspirated quality to it, so it is always pronounced "m." And while it properly should be spelled Tanpopo in Roman letters, it is spelled Tampopo, simply because unlike Japanese, Roman script has an "m," and those who speak languages that use Roman script cannot be expected to be familiar with such details of Japanese scripts and pronounciations.
I've also seen some menus describe Vindaloo as Bindaloo, which is understandable considering V and B are so similar when pronounced, but probably not good for business in a British establishment.
This happens all the time from one language to another.
Westerners prefer to write dofu for tofu because that's what
their ears hear (there is no unaspirated "t" sound in English).
(same as Beijing vs Peking, etc.)
But to Hindi ears that "t" (without the puff of air) is clearly
heard because we have "t" and "T" (I don't know how to write
it in English so I'm making that up).
Every Hindi consonant can be said to have 4 forms:
aspirated and unaspirated
soft and hard:
t = no Eng equiv (ends up sounding similar to d to non-Hindi ears).
T = regular Eng t
th = soft like the Eng "they"
thh = (no Eng equiv)
these are recognised as 4 different sounds, not 4 versions
of the same sound.... and don't occur next to each other
in the alphabetical listing (which is classified by tongue
position - so t, T, d, D and N would go together).
(Note: I've used a different transliteration from that
given in SDSeth's web link)
and one is confined to the English t letter when moving
from one sound to another, so people keep experimenting
with diacritical marks.
Sorry, wandering too far from food. Except to say
that the tt in Patta (Gobhi) is pronounced soft, not hard like in
pitter patter....
Milagai
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Now, this bit I don't understand -- if Phool Gobhi is Cauliflower and Patta Gobhi is Cabbage, why would Gobhi be used to generically describe both? They're quite different vegetables.
Maybe because desis think like whoever (Mark Twain?)
said : "a cauliflower is a cabbage with a college education".
i.e. I don't know, and different cultures classify
foods differently from each other.....?
And anyway are not cabbage, cauliflower etc.
closely related vegs (all Brassica...., along with
some others?)
and ps: to the other Hindi-ers ; yes, I do know
but forgot to write: Bandh Gobhi is probably the
more common name for Patta Gobhi.
Milagai.
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For Triangle area eg-ers, the Panzanella restaurant
in Carrboro is doing an eat local event on July 12th,
where they will serve food sourced within a 250 mile radius
of their location.....
Milagai
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However, why is that 'H' required in gobhi? Is it a regional thing? I mean, the movie spells it gobi, right?
No: it's not a regional thing.
The Hindi language has 54 letters in the alphabet
and though they may sound indistinguishable
to other ears, you can't randomly substitute one for another.
The alphabet distinguishes between aspirated and
unaspirated versions of consonants e.g.:
k and kh,
g and gh (the latter used in "ghee")
and so on and so forth.
so there's a difference between "b" and "bh".
All Sanskrit / Hindi derived languages have this
alphabet system (but different scripts).
The vegetable is phool (not pool) gobhi = cauliflower
and patta gobhi = cabbage.
Generically called "gobhi"
Gobi (without the h) is the Asian desert in China / Mongolia.
Thus the Indian-Chinese dish Gobi or Gobhi Manchurian
is actually an arcane translingual pun......
Of course, rendering the Indian language sounds into
English is a wild free for all and people do whatever they want.
I don't know how the movie spelled it.
If not sufficiently confusing I can stir the pot further....
but NEVER NEVER NEVER write Ghandi (urk my flesh
crawled as I typed that) for Gandhi and if you know anyone
who perpetrates this atrocity, please yank their chain from me.
Milagai
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Just to make sure: the point of making aloo gobhi (yes, that extra 'h' in the
spelling is needed) is that it's one of the most basic recipes,
and if you know how to make this you won't starve.
It's like requiring an Anglo-background American teen to know
how to make a grilled cheese sandwich or some such thing,
or an extremely basic pasta + sauce.
So Jess' mom was not asking her to perform any extraordinary
culinary feat, just a basic but iconic dish, to ward off future
comments (what do you mean she can't even make aloo gobhi,
what kind of upbringing did her mom give her, was she
raised by wolves, etc.)
Milagai
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I too am curious about this....
People who have pigs for pets say that pigs are more
intelligent than dogs.
Then others eat dogs / cats ....
Horses are said to be not so bright, but most people
in the West hate the idea of eating one.....
(and let's not get into the intelligence of
some of our fellow humans ....
)Also curious about the film you refer to.
I have heard about similar films
showing similar scenes for cows crying
for their calves (taken off to veal pens because
they are male) etc.
I agree that the slaughter and processing of any animal
is pretty horrible in most situations.
Milagai
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Who will give a place to this breed of ducks and who will spend money on feed for them if they can't be used to produce foie gras? Would you spend money on pasturage and grain for cattle if you couldn't make a profit? I don't think so.
I believe animals should be treated humanely and I think the battery raised chickens and turkeys should be better regulated as should cattle feed lots, pig farms and the manner in which they are slaughtered.
I also believe that there should be a total ban on whaling and have contributed to the supports for many years.
I'm not getting into the stuff about PETA and foie gras etc.
I'm curious about 2 points:
First, how come you oppose whaling? Those animals are not
factory farmed or raised inhumanely?
Re breeds of ducks going extinct, maybe they'll become
like breeds of dogs / cats - raised for pets and profits
come from that. And has not modern farming made
several older breeds of cattle near-extinct?
Milagai
Unrelated to this particular thread: one of the problems
is that meat has gone from being a once-in-a-while treat
(for the masses) to large hunks dominating the food plate
at every meal. So much grain and water for feed, instead
of being directly eaten. At this rate it will take the resources
of something like 5 planets to feed the people in this one.
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Of course, most desi kids love okra, and carry that
through life, me among them.
Root beer - well, those of you who love it can have
my share.
I love the gooey greasy Chicago pizza but ALSO
love the thin crust kind... basically all pizza is my friend....
Thanks for the update on North Asia.....(new term for me,
but sounds very useful).
Milagai
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Maybe mentioned upthread, but most non-desis
(desi = South Asian term for South Asian) can't
hack pickles.....
Maybe some very adventurous person will like
the sweeter milder kinds, but not the really
hardcore stuff (e.g. lemon pickle or whole little raw mangoes).
Or maybe now the new popularity of Moroccan pickled
lemons (pretty similar to the desi kind) may create a new
wave....
Milagai
Campout Cooking, In Quantity
in Food Traditions & Culture
Posted
Would the book "Apocalypse Chow"
(well reviewed on the Amazon site) help?
Milagai