Just to help calibrate your point of view, what's the best ramen joint you've been to in NYC? If you've found supposedly good ones to be can't-finish-the-broth awful, I'd agree. But that's no reason to dis the category. My answer would be Jin Ramen http://www.jinramen.com/node/61 though it doesn't even make various top ten lists. The tonkotsu broth is for real. Na. I was not trying to dis any category. Just trying to add some humor to the conversation. No elitism to be found here my friend. Thanks for the link, I'm going to check it out now. Ippudo ranks high on my list but the best ramen I've ever had was not in a restaurant.