KarlK

Hi folks, Need a little help here. I am looking for any RED Canary Island wine, preferably from the largest of the Canary Islands: Tenerife. I hoping one of these is available in the States. Is there a "Tenerife" wine available in the states? Thanks, KarlK

I meant to say, early references of RUM SHRUB; Here are some earlier references to Rum. Jean Baptiste Perrault Journal 1780's Charles Chabboillez Journal 1796 NW Company Grand Portage Fur Depot Inventory 1797 John McKay's Journal 1799 Archibald McCloud Journal 1801 James Porter Journal 1801 Francios Victor Malhiot Journal 1804 NW Company Fort William Depot Inventory 1816 These are all from Fur Trade Journals of the Great Lakes and Canada. All the above mention "Shrub", drinking it, trading it, gifting kegs to workers* etc... *wishing I had a boss like that Karl ←

Here are some earlier references to Rum. Jean Baptiste Perrault Journal 1780's Charles Chabboillez Journal 1796 NW Company Grand Portage Fur Depot Inventory 1797 John McKay's Journal 1799 Archibald McCloud Journal 1801 James Porter Journal 1801 Francios Victor Malhiot Journal 1804 NW Company Fort William Depot Inventory 1816 These are all from Fur Trade Journals of the Great Lakes and Canada. All the above mention "Shrub", drinking it, trading it, gifting kegs to workers* etc... *wishing I had a boss like that Karl

Morning folks, Been wondering if the "Puncheon Rums" might be close to fur trade rums, they got the "OP" and less aged factor behind them? But, Does anyone know if these are available in the States? Karl

Shrub is amazingly popular in Journals of traders in the Great Lakes, and many mention the ways of producing this drink. It was for Traders and laborers as well as native Trade. Records indicate "Juices" coming into the country, like lemon, lime and in very limited amounts orange. Even when barreled, these have a limited shelf life. Also berries grow around the lacks and Raspberries dominate, so records exist of this too, but nearly to the amount of lemon and lime shrubs. When these "juices" start to "turn" a quick fix can be remedied. Simply doing a quick fix ferment or stabilizer= This means adding High Wine and Fine Sugar, when added to these juices it stops the turning of the juice and creates a cordial beverage called shrub. High Wine of course is simply un-cut rum, the main liquor in use at the time. So for a true shrub: Refined White Sugar Lime/Lemon Juice (most common) and HW/ an OP Rum, lightly aged, pot-stilled I have another thread on historic rums and am narrowing down choices available in the States "As closest historic rums" Maybe: Prichards Jack Iron (US availability?) Clarkes Court OP Forres Park Puncheon Wray and Nephew OP Screech Still working on this dilemma, have heard Antoine River/Grenada too, but seems that is unavailable here in the states? KAK

So here is a sick question from the guy who is looking for "close to the old Fur Trade rum"..... Is there a way to obtain a bottle of this stuff here in the states? Just looking for a bit for a presentation to re-enactors this coming November? Thanks, KAK

Greetings folks, I am looking for more help, and some of you may have some answers. I , besides being a rum drinker, am also a historic demonstrator and speaker concerning the Great Lakes Fur Trade 1763-1821. Now I have read numerous trade journals and trade lists and am of course aware of the rum trade in these parts. I plan on serving several early drinks at a re-enactors seminar this November and am searching for some rums to serve with my flips, neguses, sylububs, spruce beers, birch beers, meads etc.. BUT!, What rum would be "close" to what was used in the Fur Trade? Over the past year I have chatted with our esteemed Ed Hamilton, Ian Williams and other folks with rum knowledge, but still don't have this figured out. Most of the journals in my area on lake Superior simply call it "Rum", one account does refer to it as "Leeward Island Rum", but it likely came from numerous sources. So..... here are some of my thoughts, correct me if wrong: Likely Pot-Stilled Very little ageing OP (Over proofed) Non-Blended Agreed, this is likely stuff we would not care for today. So what would you suggest? Some more thoughts on possibilities: Prichards Silver/White Rum...? Molasses not cane squeezes, pot stilled etc...? Clarkes Court OP...? Foress Park Puncheon...Would a Puncheon do? (Caroni etc..) Wray & Nephew OP...? Tanduay White...? River Antoine of Grenada..? (not available in the states though I heard) Ayone willing to add a suggestion or please tell me which ones I listed may be in error? What do you think rum traded in the 1780s and 90s may have been like? Thank you so much, Karl K.